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THESE MESSAGES are ones I have gratefully received and put up here for people who are interested to read and may be encouraged to send a message.
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There may be messages I have received which should have gone 'up' here, and haven't - because I've been so busy...

latest updates: received 16th January 2016

MESSAGE MENTIONING A PARTICULAR SURNAME TRY THIS(old) LIST: (CLICK HERE)
but it is sadly not up to date.

From: Annette Blundred
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 8:34 PM
Subject: Jarvis Family
 
Hello Val
 
I look at the site fairly often and I am delighted to see the message from Eddie Jarvis posted this week. There are a number of descendants of Edward Jarvis who are interested in the family history. I am Ada’s granddaughter and I am in contact with a number of my relatives. Many of them are still in Hull. Please would you kindly  give my email address to Eddie as we would love to share information with him.
 
Very many thanks
 
Annette Blundred
From: Eddie Jarvis
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:47 PM
Subject: History Site
 
Dear Val,
 
A quick email -from Italy- to say thanks for the wonderful website. I am Edward (Eddie) Jarvis, descended from Salthouse's miller, John Dewing Jarvis through his son Edward (and from then to two more Edwards and a Lawrence).
 
I have a few more details of that line of the family tree up to today, if anyone wishes to know. Edward (1848-1920) settled in Hull, where I was born. 
 
I dearly hope to visit Salthouse in the not-too-distant future.
 
 
Best wishes,
Eddie Jarvis

Dear Eddie,
Im sure people would be interested to see the information you would be able to add to the site! Many thanks for your email
Val

click here see the photo of Edward's ancestors outside their home in Salthouse

From: Julie McManus
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 5:04 PM
Subject: Girdlestone - Charles Edward Ridgway Girdlestone
 
Dear Val,
 
I hope you don't mind me contacting you. My partner and I live in Holt and have acquired a beautiful c.1800 metal deed box with a brass plaque engraved rather elaborately with the name 'C.E.R Girdlestone Esq'.  After doing a little research, we discovered that it formerly belonged to Charles Edward Ridgway Girdlestone.  My research led me to your website where I noticed that a relative, Mr Gathorne Girdlestone of Kelling had posted a brief family history.  I'm wondering if the box would be of interest to Mr Girdlestone and would be very grateful if you could either pass on my details or if you could put me in touch with Mr Gathorne himself.
 
Thank you in advance for your help and I look very much forward to hearing from you.
 
Julie
 
Dear Julie, thanks so much for contacting, I have sent your email to Gathorne, and do hope he will get in touch with you . . .
Val
From: Adrian Stubbs
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 12:20 AM
Subject: Kelling School
 
Hi

I have been collecting info over the years on one side of my family that came from north Norfolk, and came across your Salthouse site, and more importantly for me, the link to the Kelling School.

My great, great grandfather, Samuel Wright, ran what was called the Kelling Arms public house in The Street, Kelling. This can be seen on the 1901, 1911 censuses. He took over as the Innkeeper in 1897, and my family ran it until 1957.

If you look at the photo from Jim Radley, which you say is almost certainly Kelling School, I see my great grandmother, Dorothy Wright sat front row, second from the left. Dorothy was born at Beckham in 1891, and Samuel was born at Gresham in around 1848.

Dorothy married Herbert Stubbs in 1914, and he took over the licence at the Kelling Arms in 1934. He died in 1938, and Dorothy continued running the pub until 1957. She only had one child, my grandfather, also called Samuel, who was captured in north Africa in the second world war and made a prisoner of war in Italy and then Germany. He was repatriated to the Kelling Sanatorium with T.B. but sadly he died of the illness in 1948.

She then lived in that row of cottages by the bridge on Bridge Road. It would be the last one on the left coming from Kelling. I remember staying there as a kid in the 1970's, having sherry, her wonderful gingerbread cake, a potty under the bed and where the toilet was a outhouse in the garden. She moved to a warden controlled home in Sheringham in the late 70's, but I don't think she liked it too much. She passed away in 1981 at the great age of 90.

She was a tiny little lady, under 5ft, and it breaks my heart now to think of her, and her pain of losing both her husband and son.

Anyway, I don't know if this is of any help to you, or me just sounding off.

Kind Regards

Adrian Stubbs.
Thanks Adrian for this interesting information I have sent it to Patsy who is preparing a book about Kelling!
Click HERE to see the photo referred to,
and click on the top left photo on that page


From: Michael Dix
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:12 PM
To: val@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Harrison sisters
 
Hello
 
A few years ago I was embarking on my family tree research and contacted your excellent website regarding three teacher sisters called Harrison who retired to Salthouse in the 1940s. I have since found out a lot more about them and they also appear in two stories on your website - one about the windmill and one by Pamela Hayward who remembered the sisters.
 
I will put my updated information onto the messages page but I was wondering whether you have any contact details for Pamela. If so, could you let her have my details so that she could reply to me if she wanted to. I just wanted to find out a bit more about the sisters. I think I know their names. Certainly one was called Ellen as the bungalow by the church is recorded in her probate. I suspect the others were Margaret Harrison and Rose Alice Matthews who was a widow.
 
Many thanks
 
Michael Dix
From: Michael Dix
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:22 AM
To: Val Fiddian
Subject: Re: Harrison sisters
 
Hello Val
Thanks for your swift reply.
If you could put the following on the website, it might be of interest and there may possibly be others who remember the sisters.
 
I am looking for any further information regarding the Harrison sisters who lived in Salthouse for many years, in a bungalow by the church now called Mill Ridge. They were three of nine children, seven girls and two boys, whose parents, John and Mary Harrison, were teachers in Cambridgeshire and Lincolnshire. I don’t know whether teaching was in the blood but seven of the children followed their parents into the profession. One of them was my great grandmother, Mary. She married a school master, became head of a school in Derbyshire and managed to have eight children, all of whom became teachers! Needless to say, my father, her grandson, was also a headteacher and I have just retired after 18 years as a head.
 
Five of the sisters worked in Sheffield. My father was told a story that when the local authority upset one of the sisters, they all threatened to resign and the authority backed down. The first to go there, Rose Alice Harrison, was the Salthouse connection, because she married Thomas Lubbock Matthews who was born in Salthouse. He and Rose moved to Sheffield to become a school attendance officer and the other sisters followed. Four of the sisters were unmarried and shared a house together. They were later joined by their mother and their widowed non-teaching sister, plus her two teaching daughters and one son, a clerk and the only man in a house full of teachers!
 
During the first world war, Rose Alice and Thomas Matthews moved back to Salthouse, with Thomas dying in 1918. His probate states that he was living in Church House, Salthouse. I believe that two of Rose’s younger sisters followed her to Salthouse once they too had retired from teaching. As is described elsewhere on the website, they purchased a prefab bungalow at the 1933 Ideal Home Exhibition and it was duly delivered to Wells station and transported across the fields to where it stands today.
 
Rose Alice Matthews lived until 1944, reaching the age of 93. Margaret Harrison was one of the sisters because her probate also gives her living at Windy Ridge, the original name for the bungalow, when she died in 1963. She was 99 and left her money to Arthur Mallinson, a shop proprietor. I think the other sister may have been Ellen, whose death in 1947 is recorded at North Walsham.
 
My father’s cousin recalls a visit to two of the sisters during the 2nd world war. Their main room was crammed with furniture. One of the sisters was blind but could find her way around. The other was delicate and played the organ in church. My father also visited them during the war when he was, coincidentally, stationed at the radar station on Bard Hill.
 
Michael Dix
 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:39 AM
Subject: John Ward Girdlestone

Dear Val,

Thank you so much for speaking with me and for offering to correspond by email with me.  I am writing from Underfall Yard in Bristol, which is a working historic boatyard managed by the Underfall Yard Trust, who, with support of Bristol City Council, the Heritage Lottery Fund and other charitable trusts, rescue and repair original features of the yard, which is a Scheduled Ancient Monument and has Grade 2 and 2* buildings across the site. 

Through the hard work of both research volunteers and the staff at Underfall, part of our plan is to establish a visitor centre within the old pump-house located on site to tell the story of the Yard and the Floating Harbour. Our research has led us to your website, which has photos of John Ward Girdlestone (1840-1911) the Bristol Docks Engineer who was one of the key figure in the development of Underfall Yard as we know it today.  We haven’t, as yet, been able to trace any other images of him so have been very excited by this discovery.  The image is on this page:  www.salthousehistory.co.uk/girdlestones.html as a link from the family tree.  Are you in contact with any of the Girdlestones who are mentioned on the page or do you yourself have any further records or information about John Ward Girdlestone? We are really keen to gather more information about JW Girdlestone and, if possible, to use high resolution images of him in our visitor centre. 

I look forward to hearing from you and thank you for your help,

Sarah

Sarah Murray
Community, Learning and Volunteering (CLV) Officer
Underfall Yard Trust
07742879658
0117 929 3250
www.underfallboatyard.co.uk
Find us on Facebook - Underfall Boatyard
Follow us on twitter - @theunderfall

Underfall Boatyard, Cumberland Road, Bristol  BS1 6XG
Registered charity no. 1041863

 

From:Christine Buckley
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:29 AM
Subject: Girdlestones?

I came across the Salthousehistory messages re the Girdlestone family. I've done some research on the line of Charles Girdlestone, who was vicar of my husband's church from 1827 to 1837, in conjunction with a researcher tracking Staffs clergy from the year dot. I don't know whether it would help to sort out the different branches - certainly they came from Kelling, or at least Norfolk in general, as far as I can see.

Charles was the second son of Samuel Rainbow G of the Liberty of the Rolls, a London barrister. Samuel's father was the even more gloriously named Zurishaddai Girdlestone (of whom I gather there were in fact three, in all). Charles had a younger brother, Edward, as the webpage says. Their eldest brother was another Samuel, and there was also a sister name Charlotte, who lived with Charles and his family at some points in their adult life. I have some scrappy notes of what happened to Charles's children, several of whom followed him into the church. Charles and Edward are recorded in the Dictionary of National Biography. Samuel appears to have become a London barrister, but died at the age of 36.

One of Charles's sons, John Ward G, became a civil engineer and worked for a time in partnership with a cousin, Henry John G. He was the son of the Revd William Ewen G, who had continued the family connection with Kelling as Rector.

I'm happy to correspond with the original message writer if you think I could be of help.

Best wishes,

Christine Buckley

I was able to put Christine in touch with Gathorne Girdlestone.
   
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 1:29 PM
Subject: History
 
Hi Val.
  I'm doing my family history tree etc,and I have I think found my grand mother's grandfather,,, a "David Brown" born in Salthouse  1844 (abt) from the 1851 census.
   It also seems they had a name change from Bronner to Brown.and they lived at 29 "Lower Street",,I cant find "Lower Street" so I presume it has been changed also.
  A couple of questions for you that you might be able to help me with.
 (1) Do you know what the Street is called now?
(2) Are there and any Brown's or Bronner's still living in the village?.
(3) Are there any church records available? graves with their names etc
   Many thanks.
Yours Sincerely.
David A.White,
,(my grandmother married a White,and I have found on her mothers tree there is a family of Green's,,,,,lol,a mixture of colors).
On 4 Jun 2015, at 14:58, david white wrote:

Hi Val,many thanks for searching for me.
  Not a problem in waiting,,,lol.
   I've been doing more research( in the mean time) on other family members (siblings) and on the next generations and on different sites,,and I now think,,it may have been a fault with the people who have been reading the hand writing and have not transcribed correctly,(I've found 3 different spellings with the same name,some are obvious wrong spellings)(Brown,Browne and Bronner)
 ,,I use,ancestery.com,find my past,LDS and fregen,,,from bmd,census and parish records.,,,and then try and collate all the info and clues all together.,,its all good fun and so rewarding when you do get something new.
   One said Salehouse norfolk,another Salhouse,and another Salthouse nr nurwich (typing error me thinks),I couldnt find a Salehouse in Norfolk,thats off the list now,,so Salthouse 30 miles from Norwich and Salhouse 4 miles from Norwich,,,,,,so from looking on google maps,,,,,,,low and behold,,,there is a "Lower Road" in the district of Salhouse......so I think that is it"Salhouse",,,,,,and now other references seem to point in that direction.
  Like I said.Many thanks for your help,,if I can be of any help to yourself in the future,please let me know.
  Yours Sincerely.
David White.


Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 11:08 AM
Subject: yes hard work
 
Hi Val,,yes it is all hard work,,,sometimes brick walls,,,,,but its possible to jump them or go around them sometimes,,,,you confirmed to me,,ie no lower road in salthouse,
   I also try and let these genealogy sites know the mistakes about mis-spellings etc,its not always their fault,,but they still need to be corrected..
  Also its good detective work,,then putting it all down on paper and look the next day(go to bed and sleep on it),,then awake with the answers or the next line of search...
   Most genealogy sites don't work logically,for instance,,when you search on censuses,they ask where born,you put in example Norwich,the only search in Norfolk,,,but as I've found,people move about and sometimes change the spelling of their names and also sometimes the registrars spell their names wrong,2 "L's" an extra e on the end,,you have to be so careful,,,but all good fun.
   When I explained how and what,,,I hope I wasn't to boring,,,lol,,but you never know it might help someone else in their research.
   I live in Spain now,so all my searching is via the internet,,,please post my letters,,they might help others.
   Many thanks Val.
David White..
 
ps,,it looks like now,,My grandmother and dad were born in Nottinghamshire,but her dad's father and his parents/grandparents are all from around Norwich area. 
 
   A little tale for you,,my grandmothers father was a coachman and drove for the Duke of Norfolk until he got drunk and got the sack for driving the horse and coach possible the Duke as well into a ditch,,,,(this tale has been passed on),,and confirms I have the correct person,,because on a census it states he was indeed a coachman..
  Val,,,sorry,one extra question,,,do you know if the Duke of Norfolk had an property in Norfolk?,,might be another clue for my research .
(I know mainly its just a title,and he more than likely didnt reside in Norfolk .permanently).,,
Many thanks.
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 11:16 AM
To: Val
Subject: mistake,,
 
Hi Val,,,,,made a little mistake,in the tale,,it is my Grandmothers grandfather(the Coachman) in the Norwich area then to Ibstone in Buckinhamshire and then back to Notts. and not her father,,,,,,my grandmother's father was a miner in and  near Hucknall in Notts..
Many thanks.
 

(if you could change where I wrote father,and put grand father,,,lol),,thats if you put it on the site,,

.

You could try looking up the Duke of Norfolk online!
I put up all your correspondence to amuse and interest other searchers!

Best regards Val

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 5:02 PM
Subject: Moving from Norfolk to South Shields
 
Hi Val
I have previously contacted your site regarding the ELSY family. This  family branches and families who married into it  moved to SOUTH SHIELDS in TYNE &WEAR. I know there has been a book written and  published about this history. I am trying to get the ISBN number so I can order it. I have tried GLEN MATTHEWS by email a while ago and no joy. I have recently contacted the NORFOLK libraries to see if they can help me and it was they who suggested maybe you could give me some information or point me in the right direction. I am a descendant by marriage of one of the branches of the ELSY family that made the move. The ELSY family originated from CLEY NEXT TO THE SEA , and BLAKENEY.
 
Thanking you in anticipation
Sheilagh
 
I unfortunately have not heard of this book!
From:Jean Jeggo
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:04 PM
Subject:Abrahams of Salthouse

Hello Val

I am still fiddling about with Salthouse and the Abrahams. Each time I think I have found out everything there is to find out something new pops up. There are four Abraham men who start baptising children at about the same time. One is in Morston and his daughter marries the Rowland Spareman whose wife is left a petticoat in the will of Elizabeth Abraham (died 1639). I don't know if this indicates she is a relative or not. I am working on the theory that the men are brothers. The other two are at Blakeney and Thurning/ Wood Dalling. I was quite excited to track down the Rowland Spareman wife and astonished to find she was an Abraham - this has come on FreeREG only recently and I hadn't immediately looked. Anyway enough of all that. To get on with the main point of my email.

I found another will on Ancestry. I only looked at it because, having a subscription, it didn't cost anything and the name was Robert Abraham (of which I have many). It turned out to be a Robert Abraham from Salthouse who died at Bishopsgate in London. I have two born about the same time and they both died at a fairly young age and in the same year. The Bishopsgate one was staying (living?) in the Vine Inn. By the time the scrivener had written up the will and got back to the Inn Robert Abraham was 'delirious and intoxicated' and died without being able to sign it. He had married his cousin Ann Abraham, whose brother was the other Robert Abraham who died the same year so poor Ann lost her brother, her husband and also a son in the same year. .

I don't know if this is of any interest but I came across the will of John Parr on Ancestry. It is quite long and involves a lot of whys and wherefores etc otherwise I would transcribe 
it for you (and will if you want it). Basically he had been married to an Eleanor who he had divorced due to the heinous offence of adultery (she got nothing) and he had three daughters. 
The eldest (I presume) was Muriel who had married a Charles Maberley various spellings of that but she must be Muriel Marbellie who is down in your book as dying in 1772. Anyway 
John Parr didn't approve of him and she got nothing if she carried on living with him or if she married Charles Buckle the younger of Norwich, Gentleman! If Muriel had any children 
with Maberley they were to get nothing too. There were two other daughters, Eleanor and Ann and most of the will goes on at great length as to what would happen should they die before 
reaching the age of majority. He asks them to be respectful of the exector (Andrew Hill of Walthamstow) and not to marry without his consent and not to marry into the family of Charles 
Buckle (or they will get nothing). I have skimmed over it and that seems to be the basics. Heaven alone knows what Charles Buckle was like or got up to. It seems Muriel didn't take 
much notice of the will. I think she must be the Muriel Marbellow who has Thomas Ewen Parr in 1759 (no mention of a father) and there is a Maria Marbellow born in 1756 in your book. 
Muriel seems to die in 1772 ( as Marbellie - they obviously didn't have a clue how to spell that name). I don't know if she got anything from the will or not. A little snippet of 
life! 

                    Jean                         


Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:48 PM
Subject: Family History; Local Knowledge
 
Hello Val,
 
I was just doing a little random Googling in connection with some family history that, frankly, has been stumping me for a while, when something popped up on your website that might potentially coincide with what I am looking at.
 
My Great Grandmother was Helen Ruth Stobbart, nee Olley,  I can trace back to her marriage in Newcastle in 1912, when she was apparently 22 years old, but beyond that I have been stumped for some time; she has been very elusive.  There is a good chance her family came from north Norfolk, as all Olleys seem to at some stage, and because at the time of her wedding she was living in an address occupied in the 1911 census by an Alice Bridgers (who originated in Thornham) and Alice's niece, Louisa Sewrey.  I cannot identify if Alice and Louisa were still at the address in January 1912, but it is tantalisingly close!
 
Anyway, a long time ago someone suggested I look at an Ellen Ruth Olley who was connected with with James & Sabrina Bunn.  Then I discounted the theory as it seemed too reliant on assumptions about having the child (Ellen) out of wedlock and Ellen was slightly older than Helen.  But recently I have revisited the idea and note the 1891 census lists Ellen Olley as James Bunn's daughter in law and James as a bricklayer; although listed as James Olley on  her marriage certificate, Helen's father is also listed as a bricklayer.  Now I confess I haven't got far, but Sabrina/Sebrina/Sebina (it goes on and on!) is equally elusive.  However it is interesting that James Bunn was born in Holt, Sebrina in Hunworth and Ellen in Stody.
 
The google result lead me to your page with published enquiries/emails.  One in particular caught my eye:
"
From: betty dobson
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:29 PM
Subject: Visit to Salthouse website & info.

Hello Val, I could not contact you via Outlook Express so I apologise.First of all may I say what a fantastic site.Just browsing your site gave me information I have been searching for. In my tree I have Sophia Pooley c.1808 daughter of James Pooley & Mercy Pooley nee Pratt all born Salthouse. My search originated through my mothers family of Olleys all in Holt,Norfolk,with a connection to the Pooleys via the Bunn family. I have noticed that in your messages there is Susan Bunn who has enquired about the Pooleys. When I visited your fabulous site I also read about James Olley,a fantastic character & maybe another of my ancestors.My 2x Great Grandfather was James Olley born Stody,Norfolk c.1826. Marriage to Eliza Knowles 29.Jan 1858 @ The Parish Church Hunworth. I am now wondering if my James Olley is the same one on your website. Cheers & Merry Christmas

Betty Dobson"

 
This was way back of course; and even if Betty is talking about the same Bunn's and Olleys, there is no guarantee they are connected with my Helen Ruth or the "possible" Ellen Ruth.  But it was enough for me to wonder, and wonder if my story might have any aspects that are familiar to you, as someone who clearly has extensive knowledge of the families in the area in the latter half of the 19C.
 
I am of course being exceptionally cheeky and very lazy, but I would be very grateful if you could take a moment to see if anything rings bells.. Oh and just one other thing; I know there was a sea trade taking grain to Newcastle and bringing coal back; hence the families spread into Northumberland.  But if I said to you I had noticed some relocation between north Norfolk and Shropshire, would you be aware of a connection I might be missing?
 
This all started as I tried to prove or disprove an old story my GGrandmother or GGGGrandmother was French, which then got spooky when my in-laws moved to Brisley before I found the potential connection to the area!  Oh how we love a mystery.
 
Anyway, waffled on too much!  My thanks in anticipation, and I will look forward to hearing from you even if it is to say that nothing rings bells.
 
Very best wishes,
 

Alex Russell

Can anyone help with any of Alex's questions?


From: ChristerJonsson
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Burial register 1895

Hi!

In spring 1895 the swedish ship Hedvig from Gothenborg wrecked  outside Salthouse with nine men on board. The captain of the ship Ola Petersson was landed dead at the beach and was buried in some of the churchyards in Norfolk, maybe Salthouse?. I think seven men was rescued and the youngest, Ernst Nilsson was never found. Do you have any information where Ola Petersson is buried or anything else about the shipwreck?

Best regards

Christer Johnsson, Laholm, Sweden

Dear Christer,
 
I now am sure that this story of a shipwreck on my site which was taken from a private autobiography  by a Salthouse Man, must be your shipwreck? al though the boy thought they were Norwegian, he didn’t write it up till he was in his forties! 
click here: http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/jimmy4.html   and I hope you will see it.
I am in the midst of terrible computer trouble and my Home Page has gone to pieces!!   but the ‘site search’ is still working I think.
 
And NOW: looking at the shipwreck story again, I find I added a letter to it in 2012 from a Norwegian whose Grandfather was shipwrecked at Salthouse . . .  This will also be of interest to you!!  
 
As for the burial of the Captain, this would probably have been in Salthouse graveyard in a corner reserved for strangers. I have found no grave-markings to help with identification.
 

I would be very interested to hear your reaction to all this!  Sadly I no longer have the email address of Bard Christensen.

Christer's reply to this, is below in pink space!

From: ChristerJonsson
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:37 AM
Subject: SV: Burial register 1895
 

Hi again!

The intresting link you send me was for 1890 and ”my ship” Hedvig of Gothenburg wrecked 1895. The captain Ola Peter Pettersson (born 1849) was founded dead on the beach and buried in Salthouse. On your website I found “Salthouse Burials 1846-1903 and here was the captain! (no 409). No 416 could be the young boy who never was founded.

409

Olaf Peter PETERSON      shipwrecked mariner

18 May 1895

about 45

C.E.Lowe Rector

 

416 The body of a man found dead upon the beach. Age and name unknowneach

31 Jan 1897

 

Wm B Dalby Rector

Their death is also in swedish church books and for the captain. Excuse my bad translation to English: No 8 (in the Burials for1895) May 16 Seacaptain Ola Peter Petersson on No 28 Köpingen (the village Båstad) born 11 Sep 1849. (The figure 39 referred to another churchbook). Died when the ship wrecked by Salthouse (Norfok) in the English Channel. Buried in England.

On internet you also can find:

1895 wreck of Swedish barque which stranded on Salthouse Beach en route from Gothenburg for Dakar with timber. Constructed of wood and sheathed with yellow metal, she was a sailing vessel.

MONUMENT NUMBER:

928291

COUNTY:

NORFOLK

NMR NUMBER:

TG 14 SW 60

DISTRICT:

NORTH NORFOLK

LAST UPDATED:

2005

PARISH:

N/A

AREA:

SALTHOUSE BEACH

STREET:

N/A

MARITIME LOCATION:

WEYBOURNE NORFOLK

LOCATION:

TG 1046 4418

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MORE INFORMATION & SOURCES

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Vessel stranded and lost in wind conditions N force 10. (2)

Construction: 1 x deck; Yellow metal (1)(2)
Built: 1853 (1)(2)
Owner: J E Olsom [Olson/Olsen?], Gothenburg, Sweden (1)(2)
Master: O P Peterson (1)(2)
Crew: 9 (1)(2)
Crew Lost: 2 (1)(2)

Date of Loss Qualifier: Actual date of loss

Additional sources cited in United Kingdom Shipwreck Index.
BOT.Wk.Rtn.1895 Appx.C Table 1 p141(663)
LR.1893-4 No.338(H)

Regards

Christer Johnsson

Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 5:52 PM
Subject: Kendle/High
 
Hi Val
 
Trust you are well....we enjoyed our brief visit to Norfolk and the Ministry at Sheringham my home congregation.
Today was a sharp reminder to keep a check on your website....and could not believe the mailing about Thornage and Caston Highs....!  (Kendle/High).  As I may have said some time back that my Father came from Letheringsett but at the time of my parents Golden wedding I went near to Thornage and took a photograph of the house where he said he was born...a small cottage..at that time another resident there told me that someone in Thornage was related to us.
 
It may have been said before that through the years I think since a certain Wm High married a lass called Caston from Briston subsequently Highs have used (or havent) the name of Caston as well....indeed my own Father in his words when he discovered
Caston was part of his name `paid £5 to have it changed to what he always thought it was`!  Certainly the last time I was in that part of the area I learned that Peter Caston Highs widow was still at Riverside (Former;y a Farm) in Letheringsett.
 
I would be most happy to have contact with Christine Kendle....various contacts have arisen through the years...not least
a lady from Wells Caston High...who married a Policeman who retired in Norwich whose son was the youngest Lord Mayor of Norwich a few years back.
 
Just to add someone this week awakend my need to get on your website again in an email I have not managed to open properly refering to the Highs on a 1914 register ..it comes from abroad and seems that the sender is using a works website as all I have at this time is a factory advertising industrial products !! However will pursue the same ....
 
Kind regards
 
Malcolm High
 
From: Wycliffe Maintenance
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:55 AM
Subject: Robert Baker Girdlestone

Dear Mrs Fiddian,

I am Clerk of Works at Wycliffe Hall, a Theological College part of Oxford University.
RB Girdlestone was our primary Principal and I am looking for a photographic portrait of him to put on our main stairs. To date the only image I have found online is on your Salthouse website. (I think it was provided by a Gathorne Girdlestone).t is a project that I have undertaken which will include the displaying of all our former Principals on the Main Stairs from 1877 to the present. I am struggling with two or three RB Girdlestone being the most important.

Any help you can give me would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Phil Chapman

I was able to send Gathorne's address to Phil -- I hope it still worked!
 
From: Wendy Austin
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Kendle/High

Dear Val
I do hope you are keeping well. It has been a while since I have been in touch but we have visited the Salthouse area many times as a family since we met you at the wonderful exhibition you put on 7 years (?) ago. Thanks to you & your wonderful website, my second Cousin Julie Pitcher & I still keep in touch periodically (more later).

I just want to let you know that there is a WWI exhibition being planned for September in Thornage where Christiana & Charles lived with their family. A group of volunteers are hoping to stage the exhibition in the church throughout September. Julie Pitcher gave my e-mail address to a lady called Tricia Burnham (Thornage resident) who got in touch with her to see if she had any photo's or knowledge of Albert Barnard - mine & Julie's Great Uncle who served in WW1. 

I was able to tell her that Albert's daughter Ethel is alive & well & may well be able to help. Since then they have been in touch & Ethel has confirmed that she can provide 2 photo's & some information about her father's service for the exhibition!

I was also able to say I could provide photographs of my Grandfather who served in Ypres & Passchendaele between 1914 & 1918 (he married Ada Kendle - sister in law to Albert) & also of Charles Kendle my Grandmother Ada's beloved younger brother who sadly lost his young life in France towards the end of WW1. I have also suggested how she can get in touch with the family of another of my Grandfather's brothers who served in WW1 & also other family members of my generation who may be able to help.

So you see that your wonderful work on the Salthouse Family tree continues to keep our family in touch & its history alive! I am most grateful to you! You may wish to let people who visit your website (in search of family information or willing to share family information) know of the upcoming exhibition in Thornage as they may otherwise not hear about it? Do you have any information that may help with the exhibition & would you be interested in visiting the exhibition yourself Val? 

Finally, Tricia also said  "I have an Arthur Graveling on my list.  And, on a more personal note, the house we bought in Thornage was, apparently, once owned by two brothers by the name of Bunn-Graveling.  The couple we bought the house from five years ago were called High-Caston so local connections every way we look!" I do remember the name of Bunn Graveling in the church yard at  Salthouse but I don't think they were relatives of ours. I do not know if the High-Caston's are related but it sounds possible!

With kindest regards

Wendy Austin (Great granddaughter of Christiana High & Charles Kendle)
16 Jun 2014, at 19:29, 
Winter Rose wrote:
Dear Val

My partner and I, both artists, visited the church last Sunday and admired the wonderful solo exhibition with such a variety of different media following a single theme.
We forgot, however to make a note of the artist. Please could you advise me of her name and, if permitted, email address as I would like to invite her to our future exhibitions.

Kind regards
Winter Rose
Chairman, Sudbourne Printmakers
www.sudbourneprintmakers.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:36 AM
 
Good Morning Val,
 
I am trying to find out all that is known about Johnson Jex. I saw part of the correspondence between you and Nils Solberg about his birth place, but I didn't see your reply, so I don't know what the conclusion was. I have, of course, got the Cozens Hardy paper, and seen Nils photo of his watch.
I came across another Johnson Jex born in 1825 in Holme Hale and wonder if this could be a nephew, as the father’s name was William, the same as our Johnson’s father.
I must say how much I love your website. I heard a lovely story about a U-boat skipper in the Dun Cow, and wonder if it is well known.

Mark Igoe

Good Morning Mark
Have you also seen the letter written by Jex  http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/Jex-letter.html 
which Nils sent me? It was so long ago I really can’t be much help unless I can find his email address in old papers in my untidy old abandoned computer room. I’ll have a search later today, and come back to you if successful. . .

I'd love to hear the Dun Cow story!

Hello Val,

Thanks for such a quick reply. Yes I have seen that letter too. It seems Nils is next stop. Can you remember if you both agreed Jex’s place of birth?
The story I heard I republished in a little on line book of local curiosities called Hidden North Norfolk. I called into the Dun Cow one day and met my old mate Mike Gaber, the artist from Holt. He told me I had just missed a great story. He said a chap had been in whose father had been in the pub before the war. He said that one day a German was seen in there examining the furniture. Asked what he was doing, he said he was looking for his initials. Questioned further, he said that during the (First) war he had been a U-Boat skipper and once he had to hold station for a long time just off the shore from Salthouse, which was very boring. Speaking English, and having some English currency, he decided to come ashore and have a drink! Sitting in the pub quaffing his ale, he thought Nobody is going to believe this, so he carved his initials on the back of one of the chairs! The story is difficult to believe, but hard to imagine making up. And, I suppose, in 1916 say, it would be much easier to approach  Salthouse from the sea than it is now. And the village would have been very isolated. Did it have a phone or a car, I wonder? What do you think?
Mark
From: Raymond Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:18 AM
To: v.fiddian@btinternet.com
Subject: Salthouse about 1935
 
Hi--I have just seen and enjoyed reading your website. I have a query that I would like put out please.
I am trying to identify a Lady Carrington said to have been residing in Salthouse in mid-1930s.
She would appear to have been a relative (by marriage) of Dorothy Carrington daughter of Sir Frederick Carrington.
Dorothy had no brothers, so the relationship cannot be close; she became the leading authority on Corsica and the Bonaparte family;
Sir Frederick was a military commander in Bechuanaland and Southern Rhodesia in the 1880s-1890s.
Thanks 
Ray Roberts
 
In all my Salthouse research of Salthouse, I've never come across this name, but maybe someone may be able to help . . . Val  
 

from Barbara Salmon
sent 2nd February 2014

Dear Val,

I noticed when I visited the website that Anna Woodhouse had contacted you. I’m the Barbara nee Woodhouse that she referred to. 
Her Grandfather Roger was my brother.
I don’t have her contact details so I would be very grateful if you could pass on my email address to her.

Sorry to see the pictures of your house being flooded.  It brought back memories of 1953.
We were in the village for Freda Holman’s funeral recently and could still see the effects of the latest flood.

I’ll look forward to hearing from Anna.
Thank you

Sincerely

Barbara Salmon

       Barbara and Anna are now in contact!            It's lovely to be able to connect people!! ~Val

from: Lindsay Salthouse
sent: 25th Jan 2014
Hi Val

I stumbled across your site and read with interest all the letters regarding the village of Salthouse in Norfolk. Some fascinating stories! 
My husband is Brian John Salthouse, son of Cornelius Ernest Salthouse originally from Lynthan St Anne’s, Lancashire, but latterly from Norfolk. 
We grew up in Suffolk/Norfolk and now live in South Africa but return every year to visit family in Cawston, Norfolk. 
My brother David Forster owns and lives in the most amazing 1870 restored Victorian water tower which used to supply the water to the nearby Cawston College. 
We always visit Salthouse, and the church and think how strange it is that we are named SALTHOUSE!  We are thinking of returning to live in Norfolk in the next few years. 

Kind regards to all in Salthouse – the most beautiful seaside village.

Brian and Lindsay Salthouse

From: Dianne Moy
Sent: 20 January 2014 12:07:28
To: valfiddian

Good morning Val

I have been making a start on my husbands family history, which as you can see by my address is MOY. I have census forms from 1861 and 1871 and can locate his great grandfather, namely Walter Moy dob approx 1855  residing in Cley Road. He appears next in Northumberland census of 1881,  with two children and a widower.  My husbands grandfather is the second child.  I have a photo of him which is believed to be for his second marriage which is just great.

The reason I contact you is to find out the possible reason why so many families left Norfolk around the 1880s. It would appear he and some siblings went into the mines in Northumberland.

Your site is very good, so I hope you can give us an idea of the history of that time.

Dianne
shortage of work locally and desperate need to make money! See:' SALTHOUSE FAMILIES IN SOUTH SHIELDS' 
contributed by Glen Matthews. He says "Many people moved to South Shields from in and around Salthouse. I suppose with so much sea-travel between the two areas and the decline in agriculture combined with the expansion of South Shields it was inevitable that so many people would be attracted to the North" 
He gives a list of families from the Census of 1881 to show this. SALTHOUSE FAMILIES IN SOUTH SHIELDS

SALTHOUSE FAMILIES IN SOUTH SHIELDS

Glen Matthews extracted the following data from the 1891 census for South Shields, and kindly donated it to the Salthouse History site. He says:

'Many people moved to South Shields from in and around Salthouse. I suppose with so much sea travel between the 2 areas and the decline in agriculture combined with the expansion of South Shields it was inevitable that so many people would be attracted to the North.'

SALTHOUSE FAMILIES IN SOUTH SHIELDS

Glen Matthews extracted the following data from the 1891 census for South Shields, and kindly donated it to the Salthouse History site. He says:

'Many people moved to South Shields from in and around Salthouse. I suppose with so much sea travel between the 2 areas and the decline in agriculture combined with the expansion of South Shields it was inevitable that so many people would be attracted to the North.'

'Many people moved to South Shields from in and around Salthouse. I suppose with so much sea travel between the 2 areas and the decline in agriculture combined with the expansion of South Shields it was inevitable that so many people would be attracted to the North.'
'Many people moved to South Shields from in and around Salthouse. I suppose with so much sea travel between the 2 areas and the decline in agriculture combined with the expansion of South Shields it was inevitable that so many people would be attracted to the North.'
'Many people moved to South Shields from in and around Salthouse. I suppose with so much sea travel between the 2 areas and the decline in agriculture combined with the expansion of South Shields it was inevitable that so many people would be attracted to the North.'
'Many people moved to South Shields from in and around Salthouse. I suppose with so much sea travel between the 2 areas and the decline in agriculture combined with the expansion of South Shields it was inevitable that so many people would be attracted to the North.'

from: Charlotte Murray
13th Jan 2014

Hi Val

My Great Great Garandfather was James Olley!!! Can we have any more info on him? My Grandmother is Evelyn Ada Olley (nee Lilleystone) the youngest child of James Olley (junior). She grew up in Holt, the youngest of 10 children and is now 95 years old. She would love to know more!
Hope you can help,
Best wishes,

Charlotte Murray
Director
www.charlottemurray.co.uk
Hi Val
How exciting!! My Grandma is Eve Maida Lilleystone( Olley). She is really looking forward to finding anything out. At 95 she is tenacious and strong but in hospital as we speak. In 1943 she moved from Holt to London to live with her sister who had married the chief warden of Wormwood scrubs during the war! whist my Grandpa was serving. She had my Mum there! Really looking forward to hearing from you again!

Look forward to seeing you,

Charlotte Murray

Hello Charlotte,

I'm so sorry: first, for having left you so long -- this has been computer trouble -- and secondly for having misled you: 
I discover that the two men who are writing a book about James Olley, are still writing it!!!
I am sure they will be most interested to contact you in due course and I will forward your letter to them, so that they may perhaps contact you!

I do hope ultimately you may find more about James Olley.

Best wishes

Val

From: David Cross (cromer2001@icloud.com)
Sent: 14 January 2014 14:56:17
To: Val Fiddian
Hello, 

I‘ve been meaning to get in touch for a while now. I’m interested in the origin of the name ‘Cross Street’ as you can see that’s my name. My traceable history comes from Shipdham, Norfolk.

More interestingly, looking at your website today I see a photo of a Minnie Godfrey. That is also my family name. My Grandfather was a Cross, he married a Godfrey. I know for sure these particular people are not them, but it could be that one or both families could have roots there.

My Grandmother a Godfrey was born in Norwich. My Ancestry subscription has lapsed now, but i vaguely recollect a reference to Salthouse, possibly Cross Farm before.

Is there any way you can help me find out if I have roots there ?
sent 9th Jan 2014
Hi Val,
You may or may not remember me from various Salthouse exhibitions in the past, but we have met, and I have admired your Salthouse History cd and website often!
I am having an exhibition there in July (Saturday 26th July- Sunday 10th Aug 2014), with 2 colleagues, and all of our new work is focused on World War One, and the centenary. Do you have any knowledge of any other particular events coming up in Salthouse commemorating the war, or any people in the village with a particular connection or interest in it? We would like to connect with as many people as we can in order to develop the scope of the exhibition as well as bring a wider audience into the church.

Here is a brief description of the show:
The show will explore themes arising from the three artists’ contemplation of the significance of the centenary of World War One. The title of the show 'Not Yet Dead Nearly', is derived from the official diagnosis of shell shock, Not Yet Diagnosed Nervous, which attempted to disguise the psychological nature of the condition at a time when there was little acceptance that trauma could be other than physical.  The change of wording for NYDN was introduced by the men themselves, and their black humour demonstrates both resilience and disillusionment with the war. Themes of fragmentation and regeneration recur throughout the exhibition.
The artists have taken one each of our armed forces as a starting point and focus for their research and exploration.
Any thoughts from you would be most welcome: look forward to hearing from you. 
With regards,
Jessica Perry
Hello Jessica -- all mention of WW1 will be either in the Salthouse Book or here on this website! The indexes provided are more reliable than my memory!! Val
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:16 AM
Subject: Helicopter Tragedy

Dear Val
Hope you are well.  Have been watching the News and was shocked to hear about the accident at Salthouse.  We wanted you to know that we are thinking of you all at Salthouse and obviously feel  so sorry for the people involved in the accident.    It must all be such a shock for you all and this is to let you know that we are thinking of you.

Best wishes

Doug and Brenda (Preston, Chelmsford)
(who have stayed at the The Old Bakery)

Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:59 PM
Subject: Flood relief 1953
 
Hello Val
 
The suffering of the Salthouse villages consequent to the 1953 floods is well noted and deserving of the deepest sympathy.
 
I was one of several dozen Aircrew Cadets from RAF Swanton Morley who witnessed the devastation when we were bussed to the area for several days. On arriving we were warned of the possibility of mines on the beach and had to tread warily over the marshy terrain, passing deceased dolphins and other sea creatures which had been washed up on the shore, on the way. The weather was bitterly cold but we kept ourselves warm by the physical effort of filling the sandbags, which we hoped, possibly in vain, would be of help in repelling further flood waters. Our morale was greatly heightened by the Salvation Army van which braved the mines and turned out to give us free mugs of tea and other luxuries. I have been grateful to the generosity of the Salvation Army ever since and never fail to contribute to their collecting boxes whenever I have the opportunity.  
 
Would any surviving villagers remember this? It would be nice to hear if our puny efforts produced any fruitful results, as I have never heard or seen any mention of our efforts being recognised.
 
Regards and best wishes
 
Bill
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:48 AM
Subject: family tree
 
Dear Val,
 
I saw on your site that Barbra nee Woodhouse posted a message saying she was working on a woodhouse family tree. I was wondering if you could send it to me or give me her contact details so I can ask for it. I am Roger’s (Barbra’s brothers) granddaughter.
 
Many Thanks! 
Anna Woodhouse.
 
From: lynne
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 6:25 PM
To: val
Subject: The surge
 
Hello, we always read your website with great interest, we have been coming to Norfolk, Salthouse in particular, twice a year for 51 years, we love it.
We hope you and the rest of the village are safe and with not too much damage.

We live in north Derbyshire and didn't see too much of the news, mainly from Yorkshire north.

We do wish you all well, and hope you can be in some kind of normality !!! For Christmas, we cannot begin to imagine what it is like for you all.
Our best wishes to Winnie, lovely to see her on your web page.
 
Regards Lynne and Philip shooter  

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:02 AM
Subject: Stanforth family of Salthouse...

I found your message board while searching some of my family history and it seems the Stanforth family originated from the Salthouse area. Years ago I managed to trace a direct line from my family in Ohio (where I'm from) in the USA to when we arrived in Virginia around 1755 from England. I really don't have anything before that but I've found records of the Stanforth family dating back to 1575 in Salthouse, and what is really amazing is that his name was John and several men in my family still have that name, including my father and grandfather. Is there still any of the Stanforth family left in the area and do you have any way of contacting them?

        Logan wrote again:


Hello Logan,

There have not been any Stanforths in the village since the end of the 18th century. 
This excerpt from F.N. Stagg’s history of Salthouse has a little to say about the family: http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/stagg9.html and the will of Robert Abraham of Salthouse 1714 shows an early mention of Henry, John and Abraham Stanforth as cousins of the Abrahams. 
See it at  (http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/Will-Robert-Abraham.html). You may find more mentions of Stanforths if you type ‘Stanforth into the ‘site-search’ on my Home Page.

In the Church aisle there are graves of several Henry Stanforths and their wives, late 18th century which you will see on the burial page.
I would love to see your records of Stanforths in Salthouse dating back to 1575 ! (– or was that a typo?) Do let me know more about your Stanforths, the dates of the last ones here do correspond to the date of your earliest Stansforth arrival in Virginia!

I look forward to hearing more from you
Val

From: logan stanforth Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: Stanforth family of Salthouse.. Yes, 1575, there seems to be four different spellings of the last name from what I've seen. I found them on a website listing several families and Stanforth was one. I'll see if I'm able to get you the Web address this afternoon. They listed almost 40 different names and the earliest birth was 1575 and the newest death was 2001..

This is where I found the death listings, scroll down till you see Stanforth.
http://www.tribalpages.com/family-tree/stanforth

Stanforth, John, Born ABT 1575 in Salthouse, Norfolk, England, Died Mar 31 1621 in Salthouse, Norfolk, England

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
From: beryl.dassow@talktalk.net
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:12 PM
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: George Tozer coastguard 1900-1902
 
Dear Val,
I'm researching the Tozer family, and found the piece about George
Tozer , my ggggg grandfather was also born in Ayleabeare,Devon but in
the 1700 , i cannot find any siblings for mine who was called John
Tozer,(i know he married in 1792)
so was excited to find another Tozer born in the same place,be it 100
years on,which made me wonder if perhaps there were siblings and George
was a decendant.
I'm writing to you to ask if you are still in touch with George's
grandson Frank Cowlin who supplied the pictures,if so could he get in
touch IF he knows who his ggggg grandfather was.or if there is a
connection to mine.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Beryl Dassow (Mrs)

The original message from Frank and Sue Cowlin can be located
way down on this page click here to get to it. It dates back to 2008 
and I no longer have their email address.

Click here also to see the photos of George Tozer's family


From:
 HELEN LEE
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:39 AM To: val.fiddian@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Pratt/Withers/Dack/James Pooley, Salthouse, 1772
 
Hi Val,
Your website is brilliant, lots of the information I have passed onto my Grandfather, Charlie Withers who was brought up in Kelling, (his pic is on the Kelling school photo, as are his siblings and cousins - the Westons). He knew lots of Salthouse people, especially the ones mentioned on your site. He said the baker at Salthouse baked the best bread for miles around, and this was due to the fact that he used to burn the gorse from the heath in his oven, I'm not sure if this is just my grandfather's opinion however!  (My grandfather was born in 1922 so I presume he is talking about 1930 on-wards). He also said there was a man with a club foot, (I am sure you have mentioned him on your site, but what was his name?!) and his job was to collect the gorse to give to the baker. This man never wore a shoe on his club foot, and used to wrap it in rags. 
A member of my Withers family married into the Dack family of Salthouse, and another married one of James Pooley's descendants, James' granddaughter (Ellen/Helen born 1848) married my 1st cousin 5 x removed, George Withers, born 1840 Langham.
I am trying - and failing - to find birth details for James Pooley and Mercy Pratt, do you have any idea where I can access the Salthouse register for 1770 onwards? I am a fully paid up member of Ancestry and it's not on there, and parish records on family search start much later on! 
If anyone is researching the Withers family please get in touch, we might be able to swap information.
And thanks Val for such a great website!
Helen :)


Hello Helen,

How nice to receive your email and all your Grandfather’s memories. It was Joe Dack who provided the gorse for the Bakery – there is a bit about him on a page about Jasper Woodhouse who was baker’s boy about the time of your grandfather’s childhood (hehas since died) http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/105b.html 

But here is a bit from the Salthouse Book which I didn’t put on the website. (The book is out of print).
 from Jasper Woodhouse’s memories page 185 in the Salthouse Book: ‘Salthouse the story of a Norfolk village’
“Joe Dack, he had a club foot 
since birth. He’s the one who used to cut the faggots. When we used to go swimming, Joe Dack used to come with us, and his feet were full of furrah* (*gorse) points! You’d think he’d be poisoned. Furrah bushes, so sharp, and they were right in. He was only a little old feller but he got so used to it, he didn’t notice it. He used to cut the furrahs [faggots] and ‘Tarrow’ Woodhouse, my Uncle Cliff, used to cart them, and they were put behind the bakery.

When we went swimming, there were about 20 or 30 of us used to meet at the bottom ofCross Street where there was a seat, and Sunday mornings we’d go up Beach Road. Years ago, there used to be planks along there so you

could walk if it was flooded. We all learnt to swim in the sea when we were about 5 years old, nobody got into trouble you know. Joe Dack, he used to dive in like a porpoise-pig! He made us laugh.”

 

Above: Three Salthouse men on an outing to Yarmouth in the 1930s, Joe Dack, Alfred Hancock and Matthew Dack -caught by a street photographer

I did hear from someone else that although Joe’s father was a boot-maker, his religion prevented him from making a special boot for his son, believing that the Lord had given him this impediment and he must bear it! So your grandfather’s memory sounds to agree with that. You can’t really see both feet in this photo which Lorna Fox knew to be a photo of Joe Dack on a day out in Yarmouth with other Salthouse men.

Jean Jeggo is the expert who will be able to tell you about the register. If she is not too busy she may contact you.
Meanwhile I will put your interesting letter up online and hope that more people may see it.Two ladies in Kelling are making a book of Kelling History and I feel sure they would be very glad to get in touch with your grandfather. I will try to find out their addresses.

Many thanks and best wishes from
Val

 

From: Peter Howard
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 6:22 PM 
Subject: Barry Dawson's Memoires.....Bard Hill

Hello Val, 
Whilst surfing the net, I came across 'Barry Dawson's Memoires.....Bard Hill' and then your own attractive site to which I am writing. The reason for me contacting you is that I think it is quite possible that I was one of the R.F.G.(Radar Fitter Ground) boys who might have been with Barry during various parts of his memoires. I remember the names of some of the airmen who were with me and I can even remember the name of the old gent who used to empty the toilets in Bard Hill , his name was Mr.Hyde. I remember how I too was terrified when he arrived one dark and eerie night and he was lucky to escape with his life.....or me with my sanity ! I am 84 years of age and am wondering whether Barry, assuming he is alive and well, would wish to contact me to 'fill in the gaps! ' Once again may I compliment you on your website. Best wishes Peter Howard , Swansea. [3108341 AC2 HOWARD] !!

Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:04 AM
Subject: Salthouse baptisms

Hi there!

I literally stumbled on your site by accident.  I was thrilled to find the baptism records for Salthouse, Norfolk, England.  Thank you for all your time and effort!
I was able to find the baptisms of 5 out of 6 children in my ancestors family. 

I was hoping you could help me. I found one more child that possibly could belong to this family, but I am concerned.  All the other baptisms listed the fathers occupation as shoemaker.  The last child I found stated the father was a sailer.  Is there a way to check and see if this is all the same family?

247

19 May 1844

John William

John & Elizabeth

MATTHEWS

Salthouse

Shoe Maker

264

15 Feb 1846

Samuel

John & Elizabeth

MATTHEWS

Salthouse

Shoe Maker

283

26 Dec 1847

Thomas Lubbock Matthews (really)

John & Elizabeth

MATTHEWS

Salthouse

Shoe Maker

297

26 May 1850

Harriet

John & Elizabeth

MATTHEWS

Salthouse

Shoe Maker

337

17 Dec 1854

Arthur

John & Elizabeth

MATTHEWS

Salthouse

Shoe Maker

This is the one I question.

365

30 Jan 1859

Agnes Hannah

John & Elizabeth

MATTHEWS

Salthouse

Sailor


Thank you in advance,
Trudy Haderlie
Hi Trudy,
Thanks for your message. I’m sure Agnes Hannah is the same family – no mistake about that.  It’s ages ago now that I copied out all these baptisms into the site and I can’t be absolutely sure of having made no mistakes! But it’s very unlikely.
Many Salthouse men around this time moved to South Shields to work on the ships, and John may have gone ahead of his family – since Agnes Hannah was definitely baptised in Salthouse.

If you obtained a birth certificate for her it would tell you all . . .
 
Kind regards
 
Val
 
From: Evelyn SIMAK
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 11:31 PM
Dear Val 
I am researching the activities of the Special Duties Branch, a secret organisation set up in 1941 by the War Office.  The organisation consisted of civilian spies who were to stay behind in the event of an invasion, and to provide information about the enemy troop movements etc.   Their information was passed on by runners to other civilians who kept a wireless set hidden in their house.  From there the information was again passed on to another wireless station operated by the Royal Signals or ATS officers.  It is a long story and you will by now be wondering what all this might have to do with your Salthouse History project so I will come straight to the point (I am happy to explain in more detail if you wish).

A program titled "Secret Army", broadcast by BBC Radio in 1998, contains a number of interviews with people who in one way or another were involved with the Special Duties Branch.  One of the interviewees was a lady called UM Pennell who lived in or near Cley.  Mrs Pennell describes how she was recruited as a spy for the organisation and she mentions that one of her contacts was the schoolmaster at Weybourne.  Her other contact was a retired schoolmistress from Blakeney (I have so far failed to find any information about her).

But my search for information about the schoolmaster at Weybourne/Kelling has lead me to your website and to the photograph, under School Groups, of "Seniors and Mr Coe - 1935".  As I already have information suggesting that there was indeed a secret wireless station somewhere near Weybourne, I believe that Mr Edgar Coe was the operator.  Unless, of course, he had been succeeded by another schoolmaster by 1940.  I would therefore be very grateful for any information you might have regarding Mr Coe. 
Regards
Evelyn
click here to see further correspondence from Evelyn and more links

From: William Elsy
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 11:05 PM
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Hi Val
 
Hi my name is William Elsy
My home town is South Shields but I now live in Worcester, my sister and my parents still live up there, my fathers name is Stanley, he had a brother Alec and a sister Irene.
His father was Cole Elsy.
I served as a marine engineer when younger I think it's in the blood.

I would be happy to help you with any of the modern stuff from Shields.

My e/mail is billelsy1@sky.com

Thanks William for this offer -- there are many Elsys out there who may be contacting you! -Val

Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: Gramborough Hill
Dear Val,

I'm the city-archaeologist of Oudenburg (near Bruges). I made a PhD about the Roman military coastal defence along the Channel and the North Sea. In a renewed version I would updat the inventory of military coastal sites with Gramborough Hill. I found some information on your website about Salthouse. I wonder if you could send me more information about the archaeological site? I'm especially interested in Alex Vines' contribution in Norfolk Research Committee’s Bulletin in 1981. Do you have a copy? Are there earlier reports about this site?
Your help would be very welcome and highly appreciated.
Yours sincerely, 
Wouter Dhaeze

  Unfortunately, I compiled this a long time ago and I have no more information than appears on the website, (see alex vines.html). I am no longer in touch with Alex Vines but he must be traceable in Archaeological circles? Val
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:11 PM
Hello Val
I am researching the ELSY family who originated in Norfolk, and settled in the North East of England. I know there was a book or a leaflet published by GLEN MATTHEWS of which I would dearly love to get a copy of,is there anyone that can give me any information, eg its ISBN number so I can order a copy
Many thanks
CLICK here: Glen Matthews to go to his website!

Sheilagh
From: Rosie
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2013 2:25 PM
I hope this photo will jog some memories. My father Edward Duffield Morse, or Ted as he was always known, is fifth from the left in the bottom row.
Ted was younger brother of click to see full sizeclick on the photo to see it full size
Alec Morse, husband of Freda. I am afraid I have no idea of the year that the photo was taken but my father was born on the 13th November 1913. He worked for the Deterding family until the late 1950s. As he was in a reserved occupation he was not “called up” but was a member of the Home Guard for the duration of the war.
Sarah Morse was my father’s mother. She died when my father was 18, I believe of a burst appendix. I can also remember the white bungalow opposite the beach road and of course, Uncle Friday, as I always called him. He used to spend a lot of Sundays with us when we lived at Catpits Bungalow, Kelling. He used to cycle to visit us from Stiffkey and Blakeney when he moved there.
On a different topic, I was almost 7 at the time and I can remember cycling to Salthouse soon after the 1953 floods and the devastation to one house in particular, it was the home of the Miss Laselles (not sure of the correct spelling) and seeing the silt and debris being about half way up the walls in the pantry. Some of the beautiful blue and white plates were still in situ on the shelves covered with bits of straw, silt and other rubbish, it was a heartbreaking site. The village was strewn with debris, bits of furniture broken crockery and other possessions and of course the mud, it was hard to believe that anyone could have survived such a disaster.
Freda and Alec used to go to Holt on a Saturday to visit Freda’s step mother in Peacock Lane and they used to call in and see us on their way home. On the 31st January 1953 they left Holt early and on arrival at our bungalow told us about the large oak tree that had been blown down in the howling gale on the corner of the catpits.
I hope that this will be of use to the Salthouse history site. I found the site by accident but you have done a really super job. Best wishes Rosemary Morse
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:36 AM
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: union workhouse west beckham

I am not sure if this sight is still running or not? My great grandmother had a child at west beckham but am not sure she worked there or not before hand it says on her childs birth certificate that she was a general servant (domestic) of clay.Is there any way i can look for the information as io am stuck with history as my grand father was born a Pashley (fathers last name) but died a Jackson (mothers maiden name) thankyou for reading this
cheers Teresa

Hello Teresa,
The Salthouse history website is definitely still running! Thank you for your email. Do you have a copy of the birth certificate? You will need the dates on it to help you find out more. Unmarried mothers often went to the Work House in West Beckham to have their babies. Your great Grandmother’s records might be searched for at Clay (now called Cley) where she worked. Neither the name Pashley nor Jackson are Salthouse names of that time. Val

From: Jean Jeggo Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:07 PM
Teresa - I am not sure what you are trying to find out. I have found the baptism of Herbert George Jackson on the 22 Jan 1893 at West Beckam - a Union Workhouse baptism. His mother was Mary Ann Jackson, a single woman from Cley. There is no mention of the father's name. I have also found Mary Ann in 1891 which shows where she was working. She was born in Cley in 1875 - parents George and Elizabeth Jackson, baptised 25 Feb 1875. I cannot find Mary Ann or Herbert in 1901 & 1911 but maybe I need more information. Neither can I find any marriage to a Pashley.
Let me know if this is any help and if there is anything else I can do
Jean

Jean did give Teresa a lot of help . . .Val  
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: Teresa
This is quite confusing lol on my grand fathers birth cert it has Herbert George Pashley on his death cert it says Herbert George Jackson and on a cert i was sent by u his name seems to be Fred Pashley Jackson lol his mother never married the father Pashley she later married a Smith and migrated to Australia and my grand father was brought up by his grandparents George and Elizabeth but if u look on the one with George and Elizabeth they have my grand father as their grandson they also have a granddaughter on there May Smith this is my grandfathers half sister (Mary Annes daughter) May came to Australia with Mary Anne and she either had another child before she left or she was pregnant not sure and not sure how many she actually had this is hard to trace as i too live in australia Mary Anne married either Richard Smith or Albert Smith as i have a group photo that someone has put the names to Would i find out in Australia when they arrived her ii am guessing it was around 1911 Thank you for all the help u have given me it has really given me something to work with well that is if i can figure his real name lol
From: Penny Jack
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:24 PM
Subject: ERNEST WILLIAM COOKE

Dear Val & Happy New Year!
I am trying to find out where my maternal grandfather, ERNEST WILLIAM COOKE, (b. 30.10.1881 in West Beckham Workhouse) went to live and work after he left Blakeney School in 1890.
In the 1891 Census for Morston, Ernest age 10 is listed as a 'lodger', living with his mother ESTHER SUSANNAH COOKE (née SUMMERS) and her husband GEORGE WILLIAM COOKE, a blacksmith, and their 11 children. Their address is given as China Row, Morston.
After 1891 I "lose" Ernest until he then appears on the 1911 Census for Chertsey in Surrey, where he and his wife Ethel (née PENNY), together with their son Ronald, are living in Walton-on-Thames where Ernest is employed as a chauffeur.
I have been unable to find any information of Ernest's whereabouts in Norfolk between the time he left school and his marriage to Ethel in Bishopstone, Wiltshire in 1908.
If anyone can help me fill in a few gaps I would be delighted to hear from them on penny.jack@virgin.net
I would be grateful if this email could be posted on the 'Messages' page of the website - thank you.
Best wishes for 2013!
Penny Jack
From: ANTONY BALL
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: Newton Leman

Hi Val

I have managed at last after years of searching to pick up a copy of the Salthouse Book, and well worth the wait it was.

I am just interested in anybody who may have any more information or stories, and more important photos of a Newton Leman, who is brieflly mentioned in the book. Also whether he ended his days at Salthouse and was laid to rest in the Churchyard, as i will be visiting during the festive season.

Once again congratulations on the fantastic achievement of the book

Regards

Antony Ball.

I have suggested to Antony one or two people in the village who just might remember Newton Leman, but otherwise I'm unable to help.

Val

Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:59 PM
Subject: TUCK(E) of Salthouse
Dear Val,
Recently I hve been working through the "Buried Records" CD trying to sort out the vast TUCK(E) tribe into families. I think I have achieved some limited success with this and am attaching a Word97 file to show you where I have got to. I have to say that I found it difficult to connect the generations together, but where I think there is a baptism in an earlier generation for the bridegroom in a marriage I have linked the two entries using superscript reference numbers. A certain amount of guesswork was involved, and my report certainly can not be regarded as a definitive family history, but, with the warning that there will almost certainly be errors and omissions, I am happy to share this work with anyone who is interested in the TUCK(E) surname in Salthouse. I did notice that there seems to be nothing about the TUCK(E)s in the "People" section of the Salthouse History site. Fairly typically, I didn't find a baptism for John TUCK who married Elizabeth FENN in 1685/6. This John is the only one I am reasonably certain I am related to.
Very best wishes,
Robin Jarvis

To see Robin's tree of early Tucks click HERE (see also: John Tuck's descendants)

From: Pam Downes
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 3:10 PM
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: The Girdlestones of Kelling page on Salthouse history
Hello Val,
There seems to be a slight typo regarding the birth year of the Rev
William Ewin Girdlestone, son of the elder Rev, on the above page.
Dad is showing as born in 1758 while his son was born in 1735! <g>
When you click on the son's name, it does say that he was born in 1785.
Slightly off-topic, many congratulations on the Salthouse site. Shame I
haven't any ancestors (so far!) who come from Salthouse.
Best wishes
Pam Downes

Hello Pam,

Wow -- that was a typo!! Many thanks for spotting it
Amazing no-one had noticed it before you!

Best wishes

Val

Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 3:52 PM
Subject: village signs
Hi Val,

I was wondering if you could help me.
We are doing a project based on the North Norfolk coastal Town & village signs (the pretty hand painted ones)!
And having been in all these places last week we never saw one and would hate to leave you off the photographed list if you do have one of these signs.
So if you could ask around and find out for me where it is situated if indeed you do have one that would be great.
On the off chance other ones that I have not found are Brancaster Staithe, Burnham Deepdale, Burnham Norton, Burnham Overy Staithe, Holkham, Morston, Cley-next-the-Sea, Salthouse, Sheringham and Cromer.
Any help will be much appreciated.

Regards,
Mark
Mark Finnemore
Sales Director

m: 07976930565

Hi Mark,

I'm quite surprised so many of the villages you mention don't have signs! Salthouse doesn't -- but perhaps it should!
maybe people will contact you with information.

Best regards

Val

From: jkalin
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:45 AM
Subject: Family tree information
Good morning,
I am currently researching my mother's family. I have been able to find some information. I came across your website.. I was wondering if you ever come across the name of Thomas Glover in your research. I am wondering if you would have any suggestions on where I could go to research her family.
Marriage: 17 Jun 1721 St Cuthbert, Aldingham, Lancashire, England
Thomas Glover - of Salthouse in the Parish of Dalton
Elizabeth Charnock - of Leece in the Parish of Aldingham
Married by Licence from John Benson Curate
I have come to a dead end and don't know where to go to get more information on Thomas Glover... It seems that Parish of Dalton does not have information on line.
Living in the United States tends to limit my researching abilities. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Katt

Hi Katt,

'The Parish of Dalton' doesn't sound like anywhere around here! Salthouse may have been the name of his house!!

Perhaps someone will see your message and be able to throw light upon it!

Val

 

 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:59 PM
Subject: Marriage Licence Bond
Hello Val,
Here is another Marriage Licence Bond that relates to Salthouse. It seems to give permission for Shearwood Bainbrig of (presumably) Letheringsett, gentleman, to marry Murial Cooke of Salthouse, widow, on 1 Oct 1713, either in Salthouse Church or at All Saints' Norwich.
Very best wishes,
Robin Jarvis

to enlarge them
click on them

 

   
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 5:06 PM
Subject: Bishop's Transcripts for Salthouse
Hello Val,
I was looking at the images of Bishop's Transcripts in FamilySearch.org and came across four for Salthouse. I am attaching copies of the reports for 1698, 1706, 1708 and 1716 in case you have not already seen them. I was hoping to find some information relating to my own JARVIS family, but I don't think there is anything relevant there.
On another point, do you know why there appear to be no registers for the parish of Weybourne prior to about 1729 in the Norfolk RO? Have the old books just got lost, or were they buried for "safe keeping" like the Salthouse ones?
I am still a frequent visitor to the excellent Salthouse History site.
Very best wishes,
Robin Jarvis

1698


1706

1708

1716

 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:22 AM
Subject: Pigott

Hi,
I’m trying to trace my family history and came across you. Can you give me any info about the Pigott’s.
T hank you

CLAIRE PIGOTT

Hi,
If you go to www.salthousehistory.co.uk/index.html and choose the tab labelled ’people’ at the top of the list on the left, then scroll down till you see Pigott, you will see many Pigotts to choose from. These will be Pigotts related to those who lived in Salthouse.
You must trace your own ancestors first. Have you tried FreeReg?

Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:13 PM
Subject: Salthouse Family Trees
Hello Val,
I stumbled across your web site for Salthouse and I noticed that you have listed people from the village and the name Pigott this name rang a big bell with me!
I have been researching my family history and I have a connection to the Pigotts'. I attach a 'potted' history' of what I have gleaned so far about my family history and it's the section marked Gotts/Pigott which is particularly relevant although the Gotts/Witton does also have an impact.
Is my research of any interest to you at all? I see that a guy called Stuart Ritson has done work on Robert Rogers Spence Pigott. Do you think he may want additional information. 99% of my research is supported by census, BD&M records as well as thought the Parish Records held by the Norfolk Records Office.
I don't actually have an up to date hard copy of the family tree, I use 'Ancestry' for my research and they hold my tree, if required I can download my tree from Ancestry and do a report via Family Tree Maker.
I wait to hear from you sometime perhaps
Cynthia Nisbet (nee Gotts)
 

Hello Cynthia,

Thank you so much for your interesting message and enclosure. What a well described detailed bit of research you’ve done! Although it doesn’t seem very much connected with the Salthouse Pigotts, it is fascinating.

Click on: Pigott,Witton,Gotts to see Cynthia's 'potted history'

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:30 AM
Val, thanks for doing that, just for the record the Robert Pigott (Pygott) born in Southery in 1718 is (if the blood line is true) actually my 5 X GreaT Grand Father.
Cynthia
From: Malcolm High
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:32 AM
Subject: Beckham House ?

Hi Val
Roger Woodhouse queried Beckham House. I did reply to someone else sometime back regarding the time when it was regarded as a workhouse.
However mention is made of the possibility of it being a Hospital around 1950. It certainly was rated as a Care situation then as my Grandfather who had become Bed ridden was admitted there when my Mother could no longer cope.

Hope to visit Salthouse in August
Kind regards
Malcolm
Sorry Cynthia! -- you are truly a Salthouse Pigott descendant!! - Val        
Hi Malcolm,

Nice to hear from you again and thanks for the useful info about Beckham Palace. A lot of people who come across references to relations having been there, are rather mystified to think of it having been a Workhouse. I think it was a sort of Nursing Home for a while – possibly privately run.
many thanks
Val
From: Ann Thiessen
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:38 AM
Subject: Purdy Family History in Salthouse
Val,
I wrote to you January 08, 2012, looking for William Purdy info from Salthouse. I was trying to contact Sharon Bishop who had previously written to you. I have since able to contact Sharon by another method.
William Purdy of Salthouse had a grandson William Purdy Bishop who is buried in Sumas, Washington. USA. I left my contact information on his gravestone in July 2011 (in a waterproof pouch), and have now been in touch with 2 of William Purdy`s great great great granddaughters!
Your site has been very helpful for information and is a lot of fun. Thank you for all your hard work.
Ann Thiessen

 

Dear Ann,
What a good idea, to leave contact information attached to a gravestone!!
Lovely to hear from you and so glad you are now in touch with Sharon Bishop.
Thank you so much for the information about William Purdy Bishop which may interest many people.
Kind regards
Val

 

 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:21 PM
Subject: FORMER SALTHOUSE PORT
Hello Val,
Sorry to ask a strange question, but can you please advise (given today's geography) where the old port was located, before
the Calthorpes etc moved in and changed everything?
Looking at the Ancient Channel Map, there's no firm indication but from my many visits to the village, I would guess, the old
quays were either near the present coast road turning to the beach car park (near what resembles a white painted single storey
coastguard cottage) or, near the point often occupied by the mobile coffee man. It was he who suggested the small dyke (looking
towards Blakeney) is all that remains of the Ancient Channel.
Any help in resolving this query would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks very much
Chris Weston

Hello Chris,

I can't tell you any more than is on this site. One can only guess -- there is no way of knowing, unless an even more ancient map of the marshes should turn up . . .

There are plenty of guesses, but the answer is: we don't know.

Andrews wall (marked on the channel map) East of the beach road, on 'the Skirts', could possibly be the remains of an ancient jetty.

 

Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:44 PM
Subject: Salthouse Marriage Licence Bond
Hello Val,
I have found, and am attaching, another Marriage Licence Bond relating to someone from Salthouse. This one is signed by William KING of Salthouse aged 26, farmer, and William CHAPMAN aged 30 and allows William KING to marry in Kelling church Margaret ??? (unfortunately the bride's surname doesn't seem to be given). The document is dated 7 Nov 1722. The handwriting is not easy to read, and I have to admit that I am not absolutely sure that it does say "Salthouse", but I can't think what else it could be.
Very best wishes,
Robin Jarvis

Many thanks Robin!
~ click here to have a look at this Marriage Bond


From: Janet Shell
Date: 22/06/2012 8:49
Subject:  Cubitts, Highs galore
Dear Val,
 
Researching my family history on my mother's side, I was delighted to realise I come from the Cubitt/High and Thompson dynasties. I had known nothing about my great great grandmother (Martha Ann Cubitt - daughter of William and Elizabeth Thompson) but a Thompson connection in Blakeney soon changed that and I have now come across your site with tons of my relatives on it!
 
It is fascinating reading and I know a lot of it but the Salthouse Church dates are very informative.
 
Martha Ann went on to marry John Hall (about whom there really is nothing around!  - except he was born in Cleadon in 1842 and died in South Shields in 1905) and they had 3 children one of whom was my great grandmother Laura Jane Hall
 
MARTHA ANNE CUBITT (1847 - 1929)
is your 2nd great grandmother
Daughter of MARTHA ANNE
Daughter of LAURA JANE
Daughter of Laura PHYLLIS
You are the daughter of Constance RUTH

Many thanks for your hard work. Are you connected?!
 
Janet


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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: Marriage Licence Bonds
Hello Val,
I have recently been looking through Archdeaconry of Norwich marriage licence bonds for 1716 - 1720 on FamilySearch.org and have found, and am attaching, copies of two of them which I think may be of interest to you and to other correspondents to the Salthouse History site.
They are:
1. 30 Sep 1719
Thomas GIRDLESTONE of Morston (?) aged 40 years, yeoman and single man and Mary EMERSON aged 20 years, single woman to be married in Kelling
2. 7 Feb 1720
William PERCIVAL of Clay (sic), widower and Mary GOAT of Salthouse, single woman to be married in Clay (sic).
Please pass these on to Jean Jeggo if you think she would be interested.
Very best wishes,

Robin Jarvis

Click HERE to see Robin's enclosures
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:53 AM
Subject: Kendle

Dear Val,

I am sure its too much to hope but have you any information on any Kendles from Sharrington in the 1770's? It appears that my relation James was born/ch there in 1776 and his sister Maria in 1778. Another sister Mary Ann was ch. in 1792.Their parents were Thomas and Maria Kendle and I know nothing more about them except that James was a farmer in Weasenham in 1841 having m.Sarah Overman in 1809, marriage registered in Burnham Sutton.

My motto is leave no stone unturned !!

I only klnow of Charles Kendle born 1857 in Norwich who married Christiana High of Salthouse. He and she died in Thornage 1934.
Maybe someone could help?

Thank you,

Juliet Robinson
jandg@letchworth.eu

From: Roger Woodhouse
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:47 PM
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: West Beckham Workhouse
I wonder if you could help me. Doing family research I have found on my great grandfather's death certificate he died at Beckham House, West Beckham. Was West Beckham Workhouse in the 1950's known as Beckham House?
I know he was not destitute as he lived and left his property to my grandmother in Hindolveston.
If it was the same place did it later become a rest home or hospital?
Regards
Angela Woodhouse

Yes, I believe it did. But I can't for the moment think where I would have heard that info.

When I have time, I'll search the messages page on my website -- or you could do that, if you use the 'find' on your browser it may work. I'm so busy at the moment I can't search now. Another way is to type any word into the 'site search' on my Home Page!

Regards
Val

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:34 PM
Subject: The shipwreck at Salthouse Beach

Hi
I am Norwegian and I have been searching some information about my ancestors and I came across your site and I just found out what happened to my great grandfather Christian Christensen, borned 1871.
He almost died in 1893 when the Sailing ship Ocean sank near Norfolk.
I didnt know the excact location until now but the year was 1893.
Only 6 of the crew survived including my great grand father, he was 22 years old then. The captain died.
I found Jimmy Highs page here:
So he survived thanks to assistance from the High family.
It was a very interesting story , I dont know what happened to the men they rescued , but my great grandfather was back on the sea soon after this and finally ended up as a Captain.
Here is a another link about my great grand father and what he did the years after the tragic accident.
If you have any more information about the ship wreck I would be happy to hear about it.
And sorry about any spelling mistakes , my english is not perfect ;)
Thanks.
Bard Christensen

 

Hi Bard,

I am so excited to receive this information!
And I think the High family (who let me print some of Jimmy High’s story) will also be very interested!

Unfortunately I have nothing more than Jimmy’s description of that shipwreck.

Thank you so much. I will ‘post’ your letter so many people will be able to see it.

Very best wishes to you

Val

 
Bard's Great-Grandfather
Christian Christensen
From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Mary Abraham
Hello Val - I am quite excited by this. I do keep a close eye on your messages but hadn't looked in the last few days. I do have a Mary Abraham on my tree of the right age who I have not been able to progress any further. I have never looked at marriage bonds but maybe they would help with some of those many missing marriages from Salthouse. I will have to investigate further. I have emailed Robin to thank him - thank you so much for telling me. I have been wondering how I can find out more about the Abrahams. I have already found out a lot but it makes me greedy for more and there are still lots of puzzles. The wills have helped me sort out a lot but have, in their turn, given me more problems. For instance I have a Peter Abraham, married to a Catherine Stanforth. He leaves everything to her who in turn leaves it to 'my kinsman Robert Starling' I cannot link the Stanforths to the Starlings at all. I hate the term kinsman as it tells you nothing at all. None of this is vital to my tree - I just want to know!
Thanks again
Jean                     ( I saw it was Mary Abraham - not Craham, and guessed Jean would be interested! Val )

                                                    ( click here to see the photo of the marriage bond sent by Robin Jarvis ) Many thanks again Robin!
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:53 PM
Subject: Proudfoot
Hi Val
Seems a while since I had contact but still read up the site.
There was a Proudfoot a Chef in the Cromer/Sheringham area
who lived between East Runton and Cromer known to my then parents in the 1950s....
Every good wish
Malcolm High
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: Marriage Licence Bond for Robert Hurst
Hello Val,
I wondered if you and the Salthouse History community might be interested in the attached Marriage Licence Bond. I was looking through the marriage licence bonds on FamilySearch.org, hoping to find a marriage licence for my ancestors John Jarvis and Martha Lewis who must have married round about 1740. Martha Lewis was of a well established Salthouse family, so I would be prepared to bet they got married in Salthouse, but I have been unable to find any record of such a marriage. The attached licence bond for Robert Hurst, Maltster of Salthouse and, I think, Mary Craham was in the MLBs for the Archdeaconry of Norwich in 1736-1737.
Very best wishes to you and all the readers of the Salthouse History message board,
Robin Jarvis,
Barnstaple
click here to see Robin's enclosure:
From: Ed Graham
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:19 PM
Subject: PROUDFOOT FAMILY

Good Evening Val,

I have recently started researching The Proudfoot family, who are my Wife's maternal family line. So far I have managed to trace :
Hannah Proudfot b North Shields , Northumberland 1909 ( Her Mother)
Archibald Smith Proudfoot b North Shields 1884 ( Her Grandfather)
John Proudfoot b Salthouse 1847 (Her G.Grandfather

Ann Proudfoot b Salthouse 1828 ( Her G.G.Grandmother)
Thomas Proudfoot b Sharringham 1777 ( Her G.G.G. Grandfather )
John Proudfoot b Salthouse 1754 ( Her 4xG.Grandfather )
William Proudfoot b Salthouse 1727 ( Her 5x G.Grandfather )

After being based for many years in the Salthouse/ Aylsham area, the Proudfoots then wandered around quite a bit , John left Norfolk for the North East of England, Archibald moved from there to Scotland and back to a remote hamlet on the moors in County Durham while Hannah, to my certain knowledge, lived in no fewer than 11 different locations in the North of England and Scotland !I will be happy to share such information as I possess with anyone researching this branch of the Proudfoot family.Neither my Wife nor myself have ever visited Salthouse, or indeed Norfolk, but having been fascinated by, and loved, your superb site, it has kindled a keen interest to see the location so I think we will be beating a path to the area before the Summer is over. thank you so much for all your hard work and wonderful information.

Warmest Regards,
Eddie Graham
From: pat/eric
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 6:35 AM
Subject: re woodhouse family
i have just found your site and hope you will be able to help me with my family history. My great grandfather was william born 1869 to william and elizabeth(strike ) .William married Georgianna Rudd who died in 1888 the year my grandmother edith was born . I then know that he moved to durham and remarried Isabella (duffield) then i lose trace of him i was wondering if there is anyone that can help me i am sure there are still family in kelling or nearby. pat howard
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 9:53 AM
Hello Pat,

I haven’t got any more Woodhouse information than is accessible on my website. Did you find the tree I made of Salthouse-connected Woodhouses – as far as it went? click here http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/tree-woodhouse.pdf to see it.
Everything else concerning Woodhouses of Salthouse may be found by typing ‘Woodhouse’ into the ‘site search’ which is found on the Home page and also on the News page.

I don’t do research for people – they must do that themselves! But if I post your letter on my ‘Messages page’ you may be lucky and find some helpers!

Kind regards
Val

Have you tried ‘FreeREG (www.freereg.org.uk/ ?)
The FreeREG Project's objective is to provide free Internet searches of baptism, marriage, and burial records, which have been transcribed into a database

Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:32 PM
Subject: Kendle family reunion
Hello Val
Following on from my recent phone call, I am delighted to tell you that Julie & I have made some progress with the intended "Kendle reunion".
All descendants of Christiana High & Charles Kendle (our great grand parents) are invited to attend the reunion. You are also warmly invited as a VIP Val!
Julie has booked Holt Community Hall for the reunion on Sunday 2nd September 2012 from 11am onwards. The idea is to bring the extended family together to generally enjoy a "meet up" & to share family stories/information/photographs etc.
More details about the day will follow in due course but we hope to offer refreshments & maybe even some copying facilities.
For now, we would like to hear from any family members who would like to attend the reunion. We have two dedicated e-mail addresses set up for the purpose of reunion e-mails. If anyone wishes to contact us about the reunion, if they can reply to both e-mail addresses, that will be most helpful.
Also, it will be fantastic if family members can "spread the word" about the intended reunion & ask other interested people to contact us too.
In addition, there is a face book page called "Kendle reunion"
If you will kindly put the reunion information on your Salthouse Family history website, we are sure that many family members will see it. I will also forward a flyer very soon which can be printed off & attached to appropriate local church notice boards etc.
Thank you very much Val,
Wendy
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 6:53 PM
Subject: Salthouse History website

Dear Val Fiddian

I've been looking at your Salthouse History website and found it very impressive and informative. I did notice however that there is a slight mistake on this page> http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/grav-proudfoot.html as according to the Archdeacon's Transcripts, Thomas Proudfoot and Frances Spence actually married on 3rd May 1799 not 1779> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-12987-27522-35?cc=1824688&wc=6895327

Regards

Malcolm Lewis

Many thanks Malcolm I'll change it!

From: Laurel Hellyer Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 2:19 AM To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Searching for family history records-Mann

Hi,

My name is Laurel and in tracking down my family history I have come across the name Sarah Man(n) who according to the British Census of 1841, 1851 and 1861 states she was born in Salthouse Norfolk. After investigation of your wesite I have found the marriage notice of francis mann and frances burton on the 19th of september 1784 in Salthouse, a possible (but yet unproven) parental link. Their is also evidence that both francis and a mann boy received assistance for being poor. Unfortunately Sarah was born in either 1791 or 1792 which takes her just outside of the online records you have listed. Are their any birth or baptism records from this time period available (perferably online as I live in Melbourne, Australia) or do you recommend someone that I may email? She married a Jacob Ward on the 5 Jan 1811 in Thurgarton, Norfolk, but is listed as living in Thorpe Market between 1841-1861. On a side note, if you have any books you would recommend of what life was like in salthouse during 1750-1850 that you would recommend, I would appreciate it as I am trying to gather information about the local community of my ancestors and their lifestyles alongside with their birth, marriage and death dates.

Thanks in advance,

Laurel Hellyer
                     Jean Jeggo spotted Laurel's request and supplied help direct to Laurel!

From: Laurel Hellyer Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Searching for family history records-Mann
Hi Val,
. Jean Jeggo supplied me with some wonderful information on Sarah Mann and suprisingly two generations further back, which is more than I could have hoped for. I haven't had a chance to look for a library or second-hand copy of the book about the history of salthouse that was recommended, but hope to do so shortly. Thank you very much for all your help. If you ever need help getting some sort of research from australia, only accessible by a local, please do not hesitate to ask.
Regards,
Laurel
From: Austen Driver Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:10 AM
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk                   CAN ANYONE HELP?

Dear Val

Hi there I am Austen Driver from Australia. I am wondering if you can be any help to me in regards to a Thomas Driver, my great great great grandfather who has been a very difficult person to deal with. He married Charlotte Hunter in Cambridge on 4/9/1788 and he passed away 15/7/1821 in Cambridge age 57. We have managed to find that his father was Thomas and mother Ann Sterling, we are very confident we have the right family.

Thomas Driver marries to Ann Sterling 17/5/1758 at St Marys Gunthorpe
Their family;
Mary baptised 13/4/1759
Ann baptised 2/8/1761
Thomas baptised 24/2/1765
They were all baptised at St Nicholas Salthouse

We are trying to find Thomas's parents as the family came from Salthouse and the Village of Blakeley is mentioned?

Thomas driver married Elizabeth Burton 2/11/1732 at St Edmund in Acle.
Their family;
Elizabeth D.O.B 16/8/1733 bapsited 3/9/1733
Thomas D.O.B 28/1/1734/35 baptised 30/3/1735
Richard D.O.B 25/1/1737/38 baptised 5/3/1737/38
All bapsited at St Edmund

Thomas and Elizabeth Driver
Family:
Mary baptised 13/5/1733
Thomas 29/12/1734
Ann 29/5/1737
Elizabeth 11/11/1739
John 24/4/1744/45
William 18/8/1751
Judeh 6/1/1754
All this family were bapsited at St Andrew and St Mary at Langham.

We are trying to work out if we have one of these families right or not. If you could be any help it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Austen Driver

From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: Driver message
This is the reply I sent to Austen Driver which came back - don't know if you want to post it on the message page.
Hello Austen - I saw your message on The Salthouse History site and did a little checking. When Thomas Driver marries Ann Sterling his parish is given as Langham so I think this provides the answer. Not sure where 'Blakeley' is mentioned - do you have a will?
Best Wishes
Jean

From: John Brooks
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:06 PM
Subject: Genuine personal enquiry - can you help !

Dear Val, I live in Oadby, Leicestershire and have a nice framed print of an old watercolour painting called 'The Coast Road' Salthouse, by a well known painter named Martin Hardie, it is not very large, the print area measures 17cm (6.75") wide x 11cm (4.25") high. The picture is of a house which is still in existence, which is dead opposite the junction of the A149 and Beach Road, just down the Road from your Self Catering Establishment. I am going to sell the picture on Ebay next week, that is unless anyone local would be interested in buying it, but as I have no way of contacting whoever lives at the house, because I do not know their name or address, I am contacting you to see if you could advise me of how to get in touch with them, or to ask you if you might know anyone else who might be interested in buying it. I do apologise if this all seems a bit pushy, but I would hate to think that someone might miss a chance to have a painting of their house because they did not know of its existance,

kind regards,
Mr John Brooks,      P.S. I have attached a picture of the print to this email 
 

^ click on the picture to see larger

I bid for it on Ebay -- there was only one other bid and I got it! I'm very pleased with it! Val

From: Stuart Wallace
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:57 PM
Subject: A Girdlestone in Italy?
Dear Ms Fiddian
It may be rather a long shot, but would one of the Girdlestone family have been visiting or resident in Italy some time after 1880?
I've just purchased a book (Henry Cornish "Under the Southern Cross", a description of the Australian colonies, in its 2nd edition published in 1880) in a library sale here in Florence. Girdlestone is the name pencilled on the title-page, and, as it's an unusual surname, I wondered whether you might know whether one of the family was in Italy (which would explain the book turning up in the British Institute Library in Florence) or for that matter in India (the book is published in Madras and was not, I think, distributed widely in the UK).

"Complimenti" on your web site.

Yours sincerely
Stuart Wallace

Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:57 PM

Dear Stuart,
What an unusual and refreshing email! I will put it up on my messages page (I’m sure you won’t mind) and that is all I can do – in the hope that a Girdlestone may spot it!
It is some time ago now since I was in contact with Gathorne Girdlestone who supplied me with the information on his family, and I no longer have his email address after long ago computer crashes!
Although it is an unusual name, I gather there are quite a few families in other parts of England unrelated to those who were Rectors of Salthouse.
Many thanks anyway, and also for your ‘complimenti’ on the website!

Kind regards

Val Fiddian

 

SEE GATHORNE'S reply to the letter from Stuart Wallace


click on Robert Baker Girdlestone's picture


Thank you Steve for this lovely letter in memory of your Mother - I send my deep sympathy to you at this time and thanks for all your splendid family contribution to the Salthouse Book



above:
Steve Shipley's mother Kathleen Margery née High and
her sister Doreen.

 


above : a few years later
with her father Charles High

Click HERE to see the story of their famous father Charlie High, a Salthouse boy who went to Australia to work on the railways in 1912

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:18 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Purdy family in Salthouse- Canadian connections
Val, I visited Salthouse in 2007 and was pleased to find the Purdy name remaining on a street and at the church. I have been involved in research on other branches of my family but recently returned to the background of my grandfather, William Purdy Bishop, 1883-1963.
Upon visiting your site in December, I located some old correspondence from Sharon Bishop to you in July 2007 and 2009 regarding HER relative, the senior William Purdy Bishop, 1861-1907. She connected with a Wendy Morgan from Seattle, Washington, USA thanks to your site. I am hoping you can pass my email address on to either woman.
William and Jane Purdy of Salthouse had a daughter Mary Ann who married Everett Bishop, an Anglican clergyman at Blakeney, Wiveton, and Cley. Their first son was William Purdy Bishop (1861-1907). After marriage and two children, William deserted his family at Irmingland (near Saxthorpe) in 1885 and fled to the USA with another woman. There were 8 children born to William and his new partner (including another son named William!). The two women who contacted you are descended from the children of the second relationship.
( Mary Ann and Everett Bishop had a second son Everett James Bishop (1862-1922), who was a clergyman at Blakeney and Cley. Their grandson was Right Reverend Jim Bishop who retired to Cley and is buried there)
My family have had some contact with the U.S. Bishop family but the younger generations always get stuck on the history due to the family split and scandal!
Once again, if there is a way to pass my information along, I would appreciate your help.
Ann Thiessen

Sharon Bishop or Wendy Morgan ~ please contact Ann [I have lost addresses of those years!!] Val
From: pete marsh
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:33 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Girdlestone Family History

Val,

I came across your website: http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/val.html while trying to do some research on my wife's family tree. I believe by wife is decended from the Kelling Girdlestones. I was hoping to contact Gathorne Girdlestone as it says on your website that he has information on the Kelling Girdlestones including portraits.

Would it be possible to have an email address so that I can contact him?

Many thanks

Peter Marsh

 

I gather that Peter Marsh has now been in contact with Gathorne abd received a lot of information from him ~ Val  

From: Rob Pigott
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:47 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Sheringham Pigotts
Hi Val,

I am descended from Sheringham Pigott's - http://cashewnut.me.uk/Genealogy/HarrietLightupRobertPigott-2.pdf from the William Pigott and Sarah Hamblen line - Charles Henry was my grandfather. I've been doing a bit of digging and it looks like there is an earlier Southery connection i.e. William's grandfather Robert (same name as father) supposedly came from Southery. I was wondering if you know anything about this or if you are aware if there is any connection between our line and Salthouse Pigott's. I've been involved in family research since I took a trip to Sheringham close to 10 years ago and enjoy putting all the pieces together!

Rob Pigott
Courtenay, BC
From: Bill Atkins
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:19 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk ; east@iscis.uk.net
Subject: James Olley of the Light Brigade
ISCIS for Steve Benson
Dear Val and Steve,
You may be interested to know that I have a WW1 service medal engraved with the name of William Edward BAINES, 18446 of the Norfolk Regiment. I believe he was born in 1882 at Blakeney and in 1901 married Daisy Victoria V. Olley – the daughter of James Olley. The 1911 Census shows that they had two children, Charlotte and Edward.
I would very much like to pass the medal on to one of William’s descendants and would therefore be very grateful if you’re able to suggest any clues as to their whereabouts.
Many thanks.
Very best regards ................. Bill Atkins
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:33 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Good news
Hello ValI'm delighted to be able to tell you that my novel 'Where the Whild Thyme Blows' - the one I was working on at The Old Bakery - will be published by Severn House. As soon as I have a date I'll let you know.All the very best
Sarah
see her website ; www.sarah-harrison.net/
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:09 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: RAF West Beckham
Hello Val,
I hope your keeping well.
Sorry for being absent for so long, been busy with work, snowed under with research etc. But managed to set up two RAF West Beckham photo pages.
Please feel free to take a look, check back often. Sadly not come across any new Bard Hill photos, yet. Been able to track down some more WAAFs from the 1940s and also several airmen from the 1950s.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafwestbeckham/
http://photobucket.com/raf_west_beckham
Take Care,
Best Wishes,
Mike
From: Susan Howes
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:35 PM
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Randalls from Cley

Hi Val,

Just quickly read a few messages about the above. Would really appreciate it if you would post my new email address on this page. I am descended from Eliza Randall, she was sister to 'Onie'. Love to share info.

Best wishes,
Sue Howes
 

Please get in touch with Sue

all you Randall relations!!

Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:57 PM

Hi everyone,

I hope that the family history research is going well and that you are continuing to make lots of new discoveries!
I thought you might be interested in a new genealogy page that I recently created on facebook. However experienced or successful we are at researching our family history, there will always be that elusive ancestor who just refuses to be found! That is the reason why I started The Brickwall Club. Basically, it is a page on which to post any brickwalls which you have come up against, in the hope that some kind person might be able to help you to break them down. It is proving quite popular and, after just two weeks, we have 216 members from a range of countries across the world!
Why not take a look: www.facebook.com/thebrickwallclub and, if you would like to post up your brickwall, hit the 'Like' button and start a new discussion topic.
Hope to see you at The Brickwall Club!
Best wishes,
Chris
sounds a terrific idea!
From: Sylvia Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:14 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Randalls & Clarkes
Hi Val
It is some time since I last contacted you but I am another of the Randall/Clarke clan & was very interested to read the messages from Chris Clark.My great great grandmother was Sabrina Randall who married William Clarke. They did have a son called John Randall but I understood that he had died as a child. I am descended from another of Sabrina & William's sons, Henry Clarke.
I would be grateful if you could put me in touch with Chris.
Many thanks & congratulations on your wonderful website.

Sylvia Reynolds

I have put Chris and Sylvia in touch, with great pleasure!- Val

and here's Chis wasting no time in writing to Sylvia


Dear Sylvia --
Val forwarded your message to me. Did your Henry end up working for Onesiphous Randall in Poplar (London)? Now THERE's an interesting character!

I hope that your information on John Randall is wrong, mostly because I have become fascinated with this family! Is his death assumed because there is no record of him after the baptism or are there other bits of data? I have census records of my John Randall from 1841. A carpenter, he lived with his wife in London (but not in Poplar).

I just found William Henry Clarke, the oldest of William and Sabrina's children. He married Elizabeth Rivett and had at least one child, another William. If you have genealogy software, I'd be happy to send a GEDCOM with what I have found on this family.

-- Chris Clark
South Bend, Indiana, USA

From: Chris Clark Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:56 AM To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk

Subject: Randalls and Clarkes

I have been reading the Salthouse website with interest today. It mentions Onesiphorus Randall quite a bit, and I believe he was the uncle of my ancestor, John Randall Clarke. I would very much like to make contact with Ann Ward, who seems to have a lot of information about the Randall clan. Also Alan Grieves, who is descended from another nephew of O.R.
My g-g-grandfather John Randall Clarke was born in 1818 and left London for Philadelphia in 1853. I have a great deal of information about his descendants, but know nothing certain about his ancestors - except that he was very proud of the Randall name. It was the middle name of at least five of his ten children.

-- Chris Clark
South Bend, Indiana, USA

Calling all Randall relatives!

I have given Chris the address of Alan Grieves but Ann Ward dates back from 2004 and I no longer have her email - but her husband spotted Chris' message!

From: K WARD
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:19 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Onesiphorous Randall
Hello Val,
I have just being doing my regular trawl through the latest messages on your website and have come across the one from Chris Clark of today's date. We changed our e-mail address some time ago but would be pleased for you to pass it on to Chris if you wish.
Kind regards,
Ken (pp Ann)

 

Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 3:32 AM
To: A.Grieves Cc: Val Fiddian
Subject: Randalls in Cley

Dear Alan --
We may be very distant cousins through the Randall line. Val Fiddian shared your email address with me after I inquired about some information you posted on the Salthouse website.
The other day I discovered that a John Randall Clarke was born in 1818 to Sabrina Randall and William Clarke. Sabrina was the eldest sister of your ancestor, Pamela Hooke Randall. My g-g-grandfather's name was John Randall Clarke and he was born in 1818 in England. I am hoping that is not a coincidence.}
Here's more about MY J.R.C - by 1841he had married Clara Harrington and at the time of the census that year he was living in Westminster St Margaret's. By 1851 he had moved to Wandsworth Lane in Putney. As you probably know, both locations are in the greater London area. In 1853 he left the UK for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I have a great deal of information about him after that time, including his many descendants -- but I know nothing about his ancestors.
I have always assumed JRC was very proud of his maternal ancestors; Randall is the middle name of at least five of his ten children. John Randall, Sabrina and Pamela's father, was clearly an important man in the Cley area. The family in general seems to have been very prosperous. If my ancestor was part of this family I can easily understand wanting to honor the Randall name.
If any of this sounds familiar, I would love to learn what you can tell me.
Regards,
-- Chris Clark
South Bend, Indiana, USA
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:35 PMTo: Val Fiddian Cc: Jean Jeggo
Subject: Descendants of John Tuck
Dear Val,
In the Messages page of the Salthouse History there is an e mail which I wrote to you on 27 Oct 2010, and, at the bottom of the message there is a link to a genealogy report that I sent you entitled "Descendants of John Tuck". Unfortunately, I now find that there are two serious mistakes on page 4 of that report. I now believe that Ann BUCK (1760 - 8 Nov 1801) and Frances BUCK (25 Feb 1795 - 1875) were not daughters of Alice JARVIS and Aaron BUCK and should be removed from this tree. Humble apologies to anyone who might have been misled by what I sent you. I am attaching an amended report, and I hope it is right this time.
By the way, it is good to be in touch with you again. I wonder if you are working on another CD containing more of the "lost" parish register entries. If you are, I should be very interested to hear how it is progressing and to buy a copy when it comes out.
Very best wishes,
Robin Jarvis

Thanks Robin !

That was the only CD of 'the Burried Records' - it contains all of them -
all that were conserved by the NRO!
Here are 6 pages of your latest:

JOHN TUCK Descendants
for interested people to see.
and many thanks!
Val

From: Ted Crum Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:20 AM To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: nice site
 
I just found your site after returning to Oakland, California after a
vacation to East England that took me to Salthouse. The weather was
good and the Dun Cow had a tired and happy dog under every table.
A walk around town and to the church, then ice cream from the truck.
Thanks for the nice site with an interesting trove of histories.
BTW, your site ("Here at Salthouse...") gives me my own local time
(gmt -7) instead of of England summer time. gmt +1.
-Ted Crum

From:
Val Fiddian
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:51 AMTo: Ted Crum
Subject: Re: nice site

What a really nice message to receive !  Thanks Ted for creating such a nice relaxed picture of Salthouse all the way from California! Thanks for appreciating my site too – I had no idea that bit of JavaScript could translate the time so efficiently!!

Best wishes to you

Val
 
 
From: Sarah Whittley
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 5:44 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Re: ghost story
 
Thanks Val,
I wish I could remember where I read the story. It was great, a young man coming back from overseas, tried to get from Norwich to Salthouse on a stage coach but the bad weather meant he had to do the last stretch on foot, hence getting lost - etc, etc.
I'll have a look a the Jimmy High story. Many thanks.
Sarah
ps don't suppose you know anything about the spooky grave shaped holes that are appearing on the heath? We've found about 4 now. They're not that deep but there's not soil mounded up on the side.


Any one know about the spooky grave-shaped holes on the heath??

From: bangsflyn
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:05 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: identification of a couple of the Salthouse screen figures
 
 Dear Val Fiddian,

I see you are the editor of the interesting website about Salthouse. A friend of mine visited St. Nicholas' Church at Salthouse and brought back a postcard published by the Friends of Salthouse Church.
As I cannot find an address for them, I'm writing to you, in hopes you can pass on my comment.

The photograph on the card shows part of the former choir screen, with two of the painted figures. The text on the back of the note card is this:

"The figure holding the fish is either St. Simon or St. Thaddeus, the other figure is a layman in Tudor dress, probably a patron of the church. ..."

Looking at the photographs, I see that the figure on the left is depicted above an inscription that is:  Sa. thadeus  [Sanctus Thadeus].
                                                                                                           _
The figure on the right is depicted above an inscription that is: dANIEL  PPHA  [Daniel Propheta].

As Daniel the prophet was not a saint, there is no halo. And while it is possible that this is simultaneously a depiction of a local layman, that would be unusual.

With best wishes,
Jeremy Bangs

Dr. Jeremy Dupertuis Bangs, Director
Leiden American Pilgrim Museum
p/a Mandenmakerssteeg 11
2311 E D   Leiden,  
The Netherlands
Many thanks to
Dr Jeremy Bangs of the Netherlands!
see Carole Hill's description of
the screen
From: Sarah Whittley
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:35 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: ghost story
 
Hello,
I was just wondering if you knew anything about a story of a ghost that lives on the heath? An old man that lives in a cottage who guides lost people on their way with a lamp? I can't remember where I first read the story but I'd like to know more about it.
Many thanks
Sarah Whittley
Hello Sarah, No, I’m afraid that story is quite new to me!
Jimmy High could have done with a nice man like that when he was a boy searching for wood on the heath!
(see: jimmy) maybe someone else will have a memory of such an old man!
Best regards 
Val
From: david
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:08 PMTo: salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: salthouse spo and ex bard hill mess
 
I would just like to thank all those people who have perpetuated the glow from the shop/post office.We were stationed at Bard hill radar station in the mid 1950 period.Despite the small nature of the property we were catered with the most marvellous food.All home made and served by the nicest people one could wish to meet.When you were a young man away from home the things you missed most was home cooking,well the their food put these fancy cooking programmes in the shade.I am sure that the young girl waitress if she took a fancy to you then second helpings were on the menu.Happy days and by the looks of the locals at the reopening then happy days are here again.d w simpson SAC rtd a long time ago

see the pictures David is referring to
The Old Post Office

From: Mike Fry Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:43 AM To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Subject: Salthouse Website: Correction To Marriage  Love the site! Particularly because I have a number of North Norfolk ancestors: Cley, Wiveton etc. I would question a marriage transcription that you have on the site. You have:- 

Oct 1819 - Daniel PROUDFOOT to Sarah Ann CUBITT.

Having looked at an image of the page from the register, I can say with 100% confidence, that the Christian name of the groom should have been David.

-- Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg
 
On 2011/05/08 14:50, Val Fiddian wrote:
>I transcribed all those marriages from the original registers in Salthouse Church so I'm surprised I put Daniel for David!
>I wonder how you got an image of the page from the Register?  Just interested -
> maybe they were given to the NRO after I had copied them and you got it from
> there. Anyway I'll happily accept that it shall be David!

Mike replied:
The LDS has made just about all their Norfolk PRs available online. To see what
they've made available, go to
<https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/collection/1416598/waypoints>

And follow the links. Not all the Salthouse registers are there. Just the more
recent ones. Marriages from 1755-1836, Burials and Baptisms from 1813-1903 or so.

If you go to
<https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927033> and
scroll down, you'll see what's available. Not just Norfolk!

Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg
From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 10:05 PM
Subject: Mike Fry
 

Hello Val - I see you have had a message from Mike Fry. He transcribes for FreeREG. I had a look at that entry and I am afraid it does say David.
Not sure where you got Daniel from - you must have had a mad moment!

Jean
Sorry Mike and     
Thanks Jean!!
From: david
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:31 PMTo: salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: SALTHOUSE IN THE FIFTIES
 
WELL IT WAS A STROKE OF FORTUNE THAT I UNCOVERED THE WEBPAGE DEPICTING THESE MARVELLOUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESURRECTED THE P.O.I WITH A LOT OF RAF LADS UP ON BARD HILL HAVE WARM MEMORIES OF THE TIMES IN THE MID FIFTIES WHEN WE HAD OUR MEALS IN THE SIDE OF THE SHOP SERVED BY YOUNG AND OLDER LADIES WE EVEN HAD A NAAFI VAN WELL ALMOST ,IT WAS A VERY LOVELY AND KIND LADY WHO BIKED UP THAT STEEP HILL AND CARRIED ALL SORTS OF GOODIES UP TO OUR RADAR STATION[WHAT A CLIMB] I COULDNT BEAR TO THINK OF THE SPEEDS SHE MUST HAVE GOT UP TO ON THE WAY BACK.I RETURNED TO SALTHOUSE AFTER 40 YEARS AND THERE IT WAS STILL GONG BUT NOT QUITE AS STRONG ,THE GENTEEL LADIES IN MY OPINION HAD WORKED THEMSELVES TO A STANDSTILL AND NOT SOON AFTER MY VISIT THEY CLOSED FOR A WELL DESERVED REST.NOW TONGUE IN CHEEK THE YOUNGER ELEMENT HAVE TAKEN UP THE CUDGEL AND HAVE BEATEN THE OLD SALTHOUSE P.O INTO A NEW SHAPE.THE NEXT TIME I VISIT MY FRIENDS HOUSE[GRIFF OR DAVE GRIFFITHS]OPPOSITE THE POND ABOVE THE CHIPPIE I WILL CALL ON YOUR NEW ENTERPRISE. REGARDS AND THE BEST OF LUCK DAVID W SIMPSON
From: DigbyMike Digby
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:19 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: RAF West Beckham
 
Hi Val,
My name is Mike Digby, I live on part of the former RAF West Beckham and have been doing a fair bit of research with the intention of writing a book.  With Bard Hill being a major and joint part of West Beckham and the two stations using the same domestic site there is much overlap.  Just been reading your superb Salthouse website.
I have tracked down a variety of people who served here including the wartime station commanders daughter, a WAAF from 1943-44 aswell as a selection of airmen from the 1950s.
Actually as I email you now I am sitting in former wartime building, it was built in 1942 and planned to be the Chain Home Low site, but then for some reason they pulled the plug and opted for the CHL station to be at Bard Hill.  Its now our family home.
But anyways I have several photos of West Beckham, group pics from the 1940s etc and photos of the station here.
If your interested I can give you a CD-Rom with all the material I have found.  I would gladly put you in touch with any of the former personnel I have tracked down and would be interested in getting in touch with Barry Dawson and Robert Ingle to see what they can remember.  They are also welcome to any of the research I have gathered.
Aswell as my family owning the former transmitter site I know all the other landowners who have given me permission to show people around.  So if you or anyone else care for a look round I am happy to oblige.
Take care,
Best Wishes,
Mike
NB:
see Barry Dawson's pages on West Beckham and Bard Hill  
From: Michael Dix
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 10:11 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: History enquiry
 
Hello Val
 
I wonder if you could post a request for information on the Salthouse website.
 
I first heard about Salthouse from my father who was stationed with a radar unit there during World War 2. He said that he had two great aunts who lived there and as I have researched my family history I have come across the following information:
 
My great grandmother was one of seven sisters who became school mistresses. Five of them were teaching in Sheffield around the turn of the century but two moved to Salthouse, presumably in retirement where they lived together.
 
One was called Rose Matthews and she had been married to Thomas Matthews who was born in Salthouse. He was a school attendance officer in Sheffield. I have a record of her death in 1944 in Salthouse aged 93.
The other was Nancy Harrison (Ann Harrison). She was blind and according to family stories lived to the age of 99. (born 1869).
 
Does anyone remember either of these two ladies.
 
One apparently used to play the organ at church.
 
 
Many thanks
 
Michael Dix
 
From: Honor
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:12 PMTo: salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Stray marriage of Salthouse Man
 
Hi Val,Found this marriage in Thwaite Archdeacon's transcripts.John READ X, of the parish of Salthouse, widower, and Elizabeth ARGER of this parish, single woman, married by banns. 20 Dec 1791.  Witnesses:  John LIGHTFOOT, Edward PRESS. All the bestHonor
 
 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:32 PMTo: val.fiddian@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: onesiphorus randall
 
Dear  Val,     We understand that Onesiphorus Randall was born in Holt, Norfolk, 1798 and his parents were
John Randall and Elizabeth Hooke, can you please give us any more information about this as we are trying to
trace the family tree.
 
Many thanks, Douglas Randall.

Hello Doug, There is a lot of information and letters on my website about Onesiphorus Randall. If you go to the Home Page and type in his name in the little ‘site search’ slot which is to be found on the Home Page near the bottom on the right, you will have a list of many things to do with Onesiphorus to look at.
Use the ‘find’ of your browser to search for messages mentioning Onesiphorus and you will find many letters concerning relatives of his.    Kind Regards             Val
From: john ives
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:14 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Beckham house
 
Hello Val can you put this on your web siteBeckham Palace workhouse & Wells Alderman Peal School Dose any body remember Mr Abbs the gardener at Beckham house & Mr Harris or Mr Dains who lived at the Palace when it was converted in to Flats (early Sixties) Dose Any body Know who operated the School Bus service From Salthouse Weyboune to Well's Secondary modern School in the early seventies I have an idea that it was Eddy or Vick worked this from Pye's is this correct ?  
Thank's Regards John Ives

           and here is John's previous letter:

From: john ives
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:35 PM
Subject: Beckham Palace

 Hello I looked at your web site with great interest and it sparked of some memory's  I Lived at the Palace in the early Sixtys when I was Child with my mother and sister it was already converted in to flats for most of the then local Air bases. it was then owed by a Mr Davis and his rent collector was mr Hamlin a solicitor at Sheringham Cromer road and I have still vivid memories of the Buildings and the people who we knew then. do you know any body who lived there then or better still have any history or pictures from buildings and also more importatly would you know if the Inmate/PatientsRecords were ever rescued from the now flat south side. what I liked was it was a bit rough & ready but it was great at Bodham school are army walked there and back in any whether and was respected but it was allot different when we got home
Regards John Ives

January 8th

Val received a letter from a Mr John Bell who is 'not online' but wishes to contact Rexie Akwei-Fraser whose message of August 2009 may be seen by clicking here. John Bell claims there are errors in her Dix family history. Unfortunately her email address no longer works! So: Rexie! -- if you should read this, do send me your terrestial address and I can forward to you his information!

    Best regards      

            Val

From: Jill Williams
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 1:39 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Pigott's in Salthouse
 

Hello,Just been poking around in your fabulous site which I found by Googling a relative. It found the “Marriages in Salthouse” part of your site. I can’t find exactly how my Pigott is related to the Pigott’s there but have downloaded some census’ of her.She is Maria Pigott b.1889 who married Sidney Lewis Moulton (my relative). They are number 9 on your list. Her father Hezekiah married another Maria B abt 1863. They had lots of children (1861 & 1871 census) but died early aged 31 (her) in 1893 and him aged 33 in 1893. I was trying to “tie” Hezekiah in with the people in the family tree that’s on your site but cant. I wondered if there is any information as to why they died so young without buying certificates? Did something bad happen there in 1893?Anyway, fabulous site, shame it’s not on my family!!! But it’s another piece in this huge jigsaw.Well done and thank youOh and happy new year! ;-)

Jill Williams



 
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:23 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Novel
 
Thought you might like to know that I have completed the novel I was working on at The Old Bakery in the spring, and it's with my agent. These things being what they are I anticipate a fairly long period before it's lodged with a publisher, but I shall keep you posted. The title (which I hope no-one will want to change) is 'Where the Wild Thyme Blows'.Hope all's well with you. Watch this space.
Sarah x
From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:06 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Robert Abraham
 
I am sending you a copy of the transcription of the will of Robert Abraham son of Peter & Ann Abraham. Also the explanation of purser from Wikipedia. 
Jean
Thanks Jean - fascinating about the Purser! Click HERE to read it
From: Christine Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 3:03 AM To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Subject: Perfrement Family   Hello   I am wondering if you have any info on a family by the name of Perfrement. My great great grandfather came from this area to Australia to become a successful grazier and marry Louisa D'Arrietta, daughter of the first free Spanish settler here.:-)   Regards.  

Christine Challis

Dear Christine, 

If you go to the salthouse history website www.salthousehistory.co.uk and type into the little slot called ‘site search’ (which you will find on the Home Page) the name  Perfrement, you will find there is a lot of information. I am so very busy at the moment that I’m afraid I will have to leave it to you to find for yourself, but here’s just one of the pages you may find if you type the name into the site search: http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/grav-perfrement.html Somewhere there is a history of the Perfrement family done by Alison Jarvis (I think) and you will hopefully come across it!

 Best regards Val
Try this: Perfrement
From: Robin Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:44 AMTo: Jean Jeggo ; Val Fiddian
Subject: Will of Thomasine Lewis 1745
 
Hello Val & Jean, I have now finished transcribing the above will and am attaching the result.  It was very much easier to read than her husband, Edmund's, but I am defeated by the signatures of the two gentlemen who examined the will at a later stage.  I hope that this one too will be of interest to you. Very best wishes, 
Robin

click HERE to see Robin's transcription of the Will

and here to see his message with Edmund's Will


From: PETER AUSTIN
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:55 PM
 Subject: High family


Hi Val

Have attached another birth cetificate, which i hope may help somebody.
Its not the person i was looking for

Peter.                   
the Birth Certificate Peter attached I can't make this available sorry as it is too many Megs! -Val

From: JANE NEWSTEAD                                   CLICK ON THE PICTURES ABOVE TO SEE FULL-SIZE
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:56 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: The Rocket House

I visited Salthouse last week for the first time(we live in Devon now) as I had always wanted to see where my mother stayed as a little girl;In the Rocket House with David & Florrie Brittain (he was a cousin of my Grandmother) I thought you might like these photos;two were postcards written by Florrie. I never knew about the shack one the beach!

Jane Newstead

Dear Jane,
II really was thrilled to see these photos suddenly dropping on me out of the blue!!  That first one is such a completely new view and I am so pleased to have it. Also to meet you, a relation to the Brittains. Is your mother in the photo below? I believe it is Mrs Brittain in the centre wearing glasses, and on the right is someone who used to work for Mrs Brittain but was also a friend. I think it was Amelia Piggot whose husband was the Baker, and who lived in the Bakery (Now called ‘the Old Bakery’) where I live now!  Thank you so much for sending me the photos.

Here's one I was given of the Brittains at the Rocket House with Amelia Pigott
If you have any more photos of Salthouse I’d love to see
them! Kind regards 
Val Fiddian
click on the picture to see it full size >
From: JANE NEWSTEAD
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 4:33 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Re: The Rocket House
 
Thanks Val;yes I recognise Florrie from photos ;she died when I was very small. Uncle David started to visit my Gran after Florrie died so I ca just remember him

From: Robin Jarvis
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:25 PM

To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Will of Edmund Lewis of Salthouse 1740

Dear Val, I am in process of researching my father's family in the North Norfolk coastal area, and I believe (although I am not sure yet) that my 4x great grandfather was the John Jarvis, son of John Jarvis and Martha née Lewis, who was born in Salthouse on 3 Apr 1748 and baptised on 5 Apr 1748.  In trying to collect evidence which would prove or disprove my supposition, I bought from the Norfolk R.O. a copy of the will of Edmund Lewis, my potential 5x g grandfather, who died in Salthouse in 1740.  I found that this will is really interesting because Edmund seemed to leave various small parcels of land to his three children, and each of these parcels of land is identified with reference to the names of owners of adjoining land.  I have attempted a transcription of this will and am attaching the result in the hope that it may be of interest to you.  I have to say that I found the handwriting rather difficult, and, where I am not at all certain about a word I have put a (?) after it.  There was one particular word which I could make no sense of at all, so I have marked this with ------- .   By the way, congratulations on a superb website.  It is a real example for all village historians to follow. Finally, I should like to purchase a copy of the CD of the buried Salthouse registers.  Would the best way be for me to order it from the link in your website? With very best wishes, 
Robin Jarvis (Norfolk FHS member 6706)

Dear Robin,
What an interesting email suddenly to receive!  I’ll send your copy to Jean Jeggo who transcribed the Buried Records of Salthouse – I know she’ll be interested – and see if she can help.

On the messages page of the salthousehistory website, if you use the ‘find’ of your browser, and type in Jarvis, I’m sure you will find many messages that may interest you. At the bottom of the messages page, if you scroll down, you’ll see links to past pages, and there will be many Javises there.

Hello again, Val, On further digging in the messages on the website I found this in relation to some 18th Century churchwarden's accounts: 
The note written on 28th March 1749 reads:

These Accts are examined and alowed by us whose names are underwritten. We chuse Henry Stanforth and Fenn Lewis Church Wardens for the year ensuing.
John Jarvis (his mark)
Edm Rice (his mark)

The John Jarvis who made his mark would probably be the man I believe to be my 5x great grandfather.  His son, John Jarvis, couldn't write either, although he had an elder brother, Thomas, who becaame an Exciseman.Very best wishes,

Robin

Click here to read Robin's translation of the Will and here to see more of the fields and Pightles mentioned in the will!

and HERE for the descendants of John Tuck who married Elizabeth Fenn in Salthouse in 1693

Click HERE to see transcription of Title Deed
made by Robin
  
From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 2:25 PM
Subject: Abrahams

Hello Val -  how are you? We haven't been in touch for a while and now the webcam in Blakeney is broken I can't even see what the weather is like.
I found a will for a Robert Abraham of Salhouse on the National Archive site and decided to splash out £3.50 on it on the off-chance. It turns out to be one of the Robert Abrahams of Salthouse and was written in Port Mahon in Minorca in 1714. It transpires that he was the purser on HMS Greenwich and mentions quite a few of the Abraham family and also mentions huge amounts of money. I looked up purser on Wikipedia and was surprised by the explanation of the position. I don't know if he died in Minorca (I can't read the latin which explains about the probate) but presume he did. I had often wondered if any of the Abrahams went to sea and it appears one did! He also mentions that his siter Ann married a Robert Abraham (I presume this was a Salthouse cousin) which fills in a few loose ends for me - further eveidence that there are missing marriages (in the Salthouse records). No excuse for TNA having it filed under Salhouse as it quite clearly says Salthouse.
I think I will be able to look at the lieutenant's log for that period at the Greenwich Maritime Museum. He also mentions an 'Ant' Elizabeth Daniells who was presumably an Abraham to begin with who was living at Plow Alley in Wapping - what a contrast from Salthouse! I am gradually chipping away at the Abrahams.
Jean


Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 4:01 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Family Moy

Hello Val,
a long time since I was in touch,I was reading with interest your messages page.
For the first time,I saw something re the MOYs.
My Husbands grand-mother was Elizabeth Moy her husband John had a relation Sarah -Anne Moy so I'm wondering if this was a distant relation of his mother who was a Bullen,too completcated for me to work out.
I find it all so fasinating,
yours Faithfully,
Jean Marshall,Kidderminster,formally Essex.

From: Steve Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:35 AMTo: Val Fiddian ; Jean Jeggo
Subject: Latest High Research

Hi Val / Jean Hope all is well with both of you. I thought I’d let you and everyone at the website know how the William High “hunt” is progressing so if you could add this to the messages that would be great. Fred and I left things with a strong suspicion that maybe the High’s were actually the Howse family of Salthouse in disguise. Things have moved on somewhat in the last couple of months with some new evidence that not only throws the Howse / High theory into doubt but also that the High’s are descendents of William High and Hester at all! The issue surrounds the children of William and Hester. My recent finds of additional children of William and Hester at Kelling that end up with a definite family from the combined  parish registers of Salthouse and Kelling to be Hester 1731, Sarah 1734, John 1738, Edmund 1741, Thomas 1742 and Elizabeth 1745 still left Benjamin b abt 1740 without a baptism. Benjamin’s lack of a baptism record has always been thought most likely to be  because of the damage to the Salthouse and Kelling registers i.e. we are just unlucky that Benjamin’s entry is on a damaged page and that his entry also didn’t make it into the AT registers either. Benjamin is important because all branches of the Highs who Fred and I are in contact with (either directly or through the Salthouse website) descend from Benjamin’s children so confirming his parents is critical. Recently we have discovered what appears to be a very likely baptism record for Benjamin, not at Salthouse or Kelling but a few miles away at Saxthorpe. The St Andrews baptism register records a Benjamin HOY baptised 1740. The 1740 date matches to within a year of Benjamin’s age at death in 1829. The parents of Benjamin are a Benjamin and Ann. A Benjamin HIGH and Ann HERRING marry at St Peter & St Paul Oulton ( a couple of miles or so  from Saxthorpe) 28 Jun 1737. So if we believe “our” Benjamin is actually Saxthorpe Benjamin then William and Hester are not his parents!  Saxthorpe is also interesting as the Henry High in Fred’s recent message moved from Saxthorpe to Briston in the 1760’s just after William and Hester also move to Briston from Salthouse / Kelling. Also of interest is Oulton. I have recently researched a number of High wills that allow you to trace a High family at Oulton back to a Robert Hey / High b abt 1650  (Hey in the registers, High in the wills) to the village of Wood Dalling again close by to Briston / Oulton / Saxthorpe. We also know that another younger William High who also ended up in Briston from the 1750’s onwards baptised two children at the Independent chapel at Oulton in the 1750’s. All of this leaves everything in some confusion at present. For example from the wills we know that Benjamin’s father Benjamin is very unlikely to be descended directly from Robert of Wood Dalling as he is not mentioned in the will of a Rachel High in 1727 who would have been his mother. Rachel died at Oulton. Benjamin’s father Benjamin died at Irmingham in 1759 but is known to have lived at Heydon again very close by. If our Benjamin is from Saxthorpe then we know he must have moved to Salthouse by 1770 when he married Ann Dennis at Kelling. Given this new theory that he is not a child of William and Hester it would seem likely he didn’t arrive in Salthouse much before 1760 and perhaps he took over William and Hester’s small holding when they moved to Briston in 1762. This would seem to imply that if not a son he is likely to be a close relative so perhaps William and Hester were his uncle and aunt? There is a large estate at Irmingland which I am particularly interested in. It was as far as I know originally owned by the Heydon family (presumably that’s where the village of Heydon gets its name). The Heydon family were the major landowners at Salthouse for centuries and of course a Heydon built the church! During or after the civil war the estate was taken over by Major General Charles Fleetwood and his second wife Bridget, daughter of Oliver Cromwell. I am interested in the links between Irmingland estate and Salthouse for example my Gt Gt Grandmother Martha Riseborough was on the estate at Irmingland in the 1841 just a year prior to her marriage to Thomas Jary at Salthouse in 1842. Is there some landownership link between the Irmingland estate and Salthouse? Did people move between the two area’s to work for a common landowner?  If any other Salthouse families have links to Irmingland or other information  I’d be very interested to hear from them. Finally we return to Briston. It seems that many of the High’s arrive in Briston from the 1750’s onwards, William and Hester, the younger William, Henry, William and Hester’s daughter Sarah marries John Reynolds from Briston. I researched the Briston Congregational Chapel registers at Briston but there are no High’s or derivatives mentioned at all right through the 1700’s, likewise the CoE registers at Briston have very few High references in the 1750-1780 period. I also paid a visit to the Briston churchyard recently and found no High memorials, likewise the Saxthorpe churchyard has no High’s either. The “neat” but by no means proven conclusion to draw assuming Benjamin is Saxthorpe Benjamin is that he, the younger William and Henry are brothers and are children of Benjamin senior and Ann Herring. Likewise Benjamin senior and William (William and Hester) are also brothers but who knows what new surprises the High’s will reveal! Steve Lee 19/09/2010 

 

From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:03 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: High marriage (in Peter Austin's email below Bernice's)

Benjamin High got married in Norwich. See below from FreeBMD. Jean  
Surname First name(s) District Vol  Page 

Marriages Jun 1859   (>99%)
ELLIS  Susan  Norwich 4b244   
High  Benjamin   Norwich 4B244   
Norton  Michael Norwich 4b244   
Taylor  Naomi   Norwich 4b244   
The links can't transfer from Jean's email, so go and join www.freebmd.org.uk to find more! ~Val
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:34 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Re: Re:High family
Hi ValThank you for a quick response.I have got the marraige certificate for Benjamin and Susan.According to Fred Susan had a son named Godfrey and later changed his name to Frederick my greatgrandad.when she married Benjamin.I cannot find Susan anywhere before she married Benjamin,mabye somebody on the site might have more information.Cheers
Peter
From: Bernice
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:06 PMTo: val.fiddian@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: RE: Thursday
Hello Val
 
Can't believe it has been a week since we left Salthouse, where does the time go?   
We have been looking a dates to return and will have to do a spur of the moment break over the winter.    

We have been to our local bookshop in search of  the book - Salthouse. The story of a Norfolk village and wow second hand £45!! We shall keep looking on e-bay over the coming months to see if one becomes available.
 
Thank you for your hospitality and the sharing of the annexe which truly is a serene retreat in a very hectic world.
 
Best wishes and kind regards
 
Bernice
From: PETER AUSTIN
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:56 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Re:High family

Hi ValJust found this site and have been in contact with Fred High,who gave me a few bits of information. Am trying to find a Susan or Susannah Ellis who married Benjamin High (c 1859), whom I believe was my gr gr grandad. I Would appreciate it if you could post this on the web site for me.May I say what a great site this is for the "High" family.and any one else who are researching family in the Salthouse region.Cheers Val
Peter Austin

From: Fred High
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:14 AMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Additions to the High Family

Hello Val

 As you know for the last year or so Steve Lee and I have been trying to find the parents of William High (born about 1705) and his wife Hester. While we have not been successful as yet in establishing with any degree of certainty the ancestry of William and Hester during the research a family tree for a Henry High, born about 1745 and who appeared in Briston about the same time as William and Hester moved from Salthouse, has been developed.As yet the relationship between William and Hester and Henry has not been established, he could be a son or a nephew. However, putting that aside I thought you may be interested in the family tree of the descendants of Henry and his two wives, Elizabeth Fill (married 6 Aug 1764 Briston ) and Elizabeth Scott (married 19 Sep 1768 Briston) as many of his descendants lived in Cley next the Sea and many other places in that area in the north of Norfolk. Since you first put the High Family tree on the Salthouse website I have had many queries from and information on the descendants of High’s in the Salthouse/Cley next the Sea area and many of these I could not link to the original family tree starting with William and Hester, but I now know are descendants of Henry and his two Elizabeth wives.  Like all things in genealogy they are never absolutely complete. However I have attached a PDF and GED file which shows the descendants of Henry High who was born 1745 and married Elizabeth Fill in Briston in 1764 and then Elizabeth Scott in Briston 1768. I have mainly concentrated on the descendants of Benjamin High born Briston 1764 and who married Mary Wilkinson in Booton in 1791 as these are the parents of Henry High born Briston 1795 and who married Willoughby (Willabethy and other variations) Carson in 1819 Cley next the Sea. This was in response to a number of emails from Malcolm High and who has been in contact with you on a number of occasions in the past.
Over the years the records show that with this family of High’s the surname changes from Carson to Caston and from Carson High to High Caston and then in some families the surname in the records varies from Caston to High to High-Caston. It makes life difficult to try and trace the individuals as the surnames constantly changes and are not consistent with families in a single generation or between official records of the same period. However, that being said I am reasonably confident what I have listed is correct. There are many more who I found and suspect they are descendants but I was not certain and could not verify their ancestry so have not included them in the descendants family tree. Like many of the Salthouse High’s, many of Henry’s descendants where Primitive Methodists and as such the church records of births, marriages and deaths are incomplete or not available on the internet. In some instances individuals appear in both the Primitive Methodist Circuit Records and the Church of England Parish records. I assume this was mainly because of the Social Security laws and benefits of the time.      
As I am going to take a break from this line of the family for a while and concentrate on trying to positively link the High’s prior to 1764 I thought it may be a good idea to let you have what I have discovered to date to do with it what you think is best.  My research in the immediate future will concentrate on for example; is Benjamin Hoy (High) born 1740 Saxthorpe and the son of Benjamin High and Anne the Benjamin High currently shown as the son of William and Hester. Are Henry High born about 1745 and the William High who married Elizabeth on 1 Oct 1756 in Briston and who in listed as coming from Corpusty the brothers of Benjamin born 1740. Who was the William High who was buried in Cley next the Sea in 1742 and where do William and Hester fit? There are lots of questions but as yet no clues and no answers but some possibilities. Hope you find this interesting and I would be grateful of any comments or suggestions. Kind regards

           Fred

to see the pdf version of the Henry High tree click here

Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:36 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Girdlestone family

Hi I came across a page on your Salthouse website about the Girdlestone family. I would like to be able to contact those mentioned on it as I have a query regarding the history of the family and they may be able to help. Unfortunately the contact information given is out of date. Do you by any chance have any current information for contacting David Addy, Liz Girdlestone or Gathorne Girdlestone? Thank you 
John Howarth
From: Alan Grieves
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:19 PMTo: Valfiddian@Salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Family History

Hi Val        My name is Alan Grieves and with the help of my niece Nicola and Genes reunited we have been putting together our family tree.We have pieced together a lineage to the North Norfolk coast area which goes back to the seventeenth century.Having looked at your website I think you may find some long established family names from your area.My father name was Thomas George Grieves and my mothers name was Ellen Hilda Grieves .My father was the only child of George Grant Grieves and Annie Gascoigne.Annie was born in Poplar East London in 1879Annie I believe was one of 12 children to Randall M Gascoigne & Mary Conner.Randall M Gascoigne was born in Cley next to Sea in 1845.Randall M Gascoigne is the son of Thomas Gascoigne born in Cawston Aylsham in 1797.Randall M Gascoigne married Pamela Hook Randall.Pamela Hook Randall was born in Cley next to Sea in 1803.Pamela Hook Randall is one of three daughters and two brothers born to John Randall and Elizabeth Hook.Pamelas brothers and sisters were Onesipherous, James, Sabrina and Naomi.Thomas Gascoigne is the son of Edmund Gascoigne who was born in Holt Hundred in 1756.Elizabeth Hook was born in Salthouse in 1768.John Randall and Elizabeth ran the Bell Inn at Wiveton.John Randall Thomas Gascoigne married Ann Dix in 1750.Ann Dix was born in Aylsham Hundred in 1766.  As you can see we have a strong connection with Cley, Salthouse, Aylsham and Cawston areas.We have also researched Onesipherous Randall on your site and what a character! I believe if my working out is correct old Onesipherous would be my Great, Great Uncle.Hope all of this is of interest to you and please get back to me if you can add anyone or anything to our historyKind regards

Alan

From: elizabeth riddle
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:48 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: First World War

Dear Val
I discovered your absolutely amazing website while trying to find out more about my grandfather. I have lived in Australia for over 40 years, and want to pass on to my grandchildren as much information as I can about my family history back in England. Unfortunately there are no members of my parents' generation who are still alive, and I know very little about my grandparents. But I do remember my mother saying that she holidayed in Cromer as a child because her father was stationed at Salthouse in the first World War. He only enlisted for the war and I don't think he served overseas, possibly because he was a bit old. The reminiscences on your site and other references to Salthouse during this period are really interesting, and I wonder if you know what regiments were stationed there and what they actually did? I would be very grateful if you or any of your contacts could give me any more information. Thank you so much for what I have already gleaned!
Kind regards from Elizabeth Riddle
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Val Fiddian <salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Dear Elizabeth, Thank you so much for your kind words about my website!  I've put your letter up on the messages page. It's rather an unusual one.  Did you see the description of the 1st world war soldiers in the excerpts from Florence Radley's memories of Salthouse? click here www.salthousehistory.co.uk/florrie.html though there is only a little mention of the soldiers. The only regiment I know was at Salthouse during WW1  is the 7th Essex - because a Private from that regiment died in Salthouse after falling from his bicycle and drowning in the muddy flood water on the marsh, and is buried in the churchyard. I don't know of any way of finding out about the regiments stationed here. But the internet might turn something up - you never know. 
Best of luck with your search!
Val
From: elizabeth riddle
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 7:33 AMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Re: First World War
Dear Val
Thank you so much for your prompt reply, and for putting my letter onto your message page. Yes, I did see Florence's wonderful reminiscences, and those of Ray High, and a few other mentions of World War 1 soldiers. But thank you for drawing my attention to Walter Potton's gravestone, which gives me something else to go on. I had seen the photo of the soldiers marching to a funeral, but the web page does not say whose funeral it was, unless you go to the graves section which I hadn't done before. It's all so interesting... as I said, it's an amazing website.  I just wish there was one like it for the village where some of my other ancestors came from!  I've been searching the internet for more references to soldiers stationed at Salthouse but have only found your contributions - perhaps someone who reads your messages might have more information.  I'll let you know if I learn anything else. Very many thanks again, Elizabeth
 
From: Jessica Presland
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:41 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: family tree

Hi Val

I have just been looking with absolute fascination at your website on Salthouse. I am a descendent of William High, so was really interested in information on the family. I am related through Hannah High who married John Holmes Randall of Holt (Russell Randall - Anthony Randall - me (was Jane Randall now Jessica Presland. So Hannah was my great grandmother. I inherited her photo albums and through your page have been able to put names to faces! I was aware that she had many brothers and sisters, but found all the information really interesting. Let me know if you want further generations added! Oh, I did notice that my mother's birthdate is listed incorrectly - Angela McKean, born 28th June 1937, not July. John was about 2 years older than Bernard so would have been born about 1921, but I can check that. Theresa is the only surviving member of that family. Terence was her twin and died in London age 10 days. I can also let you have the dates of death for the other brothers, you already have my dad's listed. This must have been hours of work! I have a copy of the Randall family tree which goes back to the 1700s.

Kind regards
Jessica

From: Jessica Presland
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 4:57 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Re: family tree

Hi Val

Thank you so much for your prompt reply - it was lovely to hear from you.

What a lot of work has gone into the High family tree. I would be delighted to show you the Randall tree - I think it links to good old Onisephorus, but I ran out of steam! Would love to show you what I have though. The Randalls were quite significant in Holt and were responsible for bringing gas to the town. (White's directory 1883- "Gas works were erected in 1841 by the late Mr. John Randall, and now belong to the Holt Gas Company (Limited), who charge at the rate of 6s. per 1000 cubic feet" ).  Russel Randall had a scholarship to Greshams school but was taken away by his father, John Holmes Randall, to study electricity in London where he met Agnes. He was in the army in the 1st World War as an officer and fought in Egypt and France. My great aunt, Olive, was a teacher in Norwich and died a spinster. The census shows that Hannah High was in service next door to the Randall's clock and watch shop in Holt and obviously she and John then met, There are many photos of them at the shop and he then expanded into the cycle trade. The shop was previously owned by his father William Randall. One of his clocks is in Gressenhall and and another in the Bridewell in Norwich. I have a vast quantity of photographs and would be happy to show you these and you'd be welcome to borrow anything to put on the website. The Cromer Randalls come from the brother of John Holmes. I believe that John Holmes Randall was a photo enthusiast which would explain the quantity of photographs, and although Hannah evidently had a harsh childhood, she and John were quite well-to-do, with the Cromer cousins (there were 9 I think) being sent to Holt to convalesce. I live in Beccles, so not so far away and most of my family are around Gimingham and North Walsham.

If you would like me to come over sometime with all the photos just let me know.

Regards
Jessica
From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:56 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: message about William Balling

Val - regarding your latest message about William Balling on the 1901 census. I do not think Balling is the name - it has a big smudge in the middle and I think it should be William Balding who is on FreeBMD as being born Sep quarter in Erpingham which includes Salthouse. I can't find a baptism for him and by 1911 he is not with his parents and entered just as being born in Norfolk. Balling does not appear to be a common name, if it is a name at all. There are only 9 births registered on FreeBMD and only 4 on FreeREG. Hope this helps.
Jean
From: michael acton
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:28 PMTo: salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: William Balling

Hi I saw your excellent site and wondered if you had any information on a WILLIAM BALLING who according to the 1901 census was born in Salthouse 1897.His parents were  Martha born 1875 and Walter 1873.At the time of this census they lived in Hockley
 
Best wishes Mike

                  No record of him here - He isn't in the Baptism register . . . Can any one help ? ~Val

From: Robert Monement
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 5:58 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Monement Family
Dear Val, 
Came across two messages on your site asking for info on the Monements, who apparently donated property for a local club in the 1940s.  My grandfather, Frederick Monement, emmigrated from England to the U.S. around the turn of the 20th Century.  I know he had a brother who was still living in England in the 1970s but that is all I know about the Monements in England.  There are 7 living Monements in the U.S., and many in Australia.  Anyway, If the writers of the following messages would like to contact me, I'd be happy to hear from them.
From: Richard Jefferson
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: John Beevis
Dear Val
Your Salthouse website is a gem. I get an important contact about once a year from it!
I was surfing vaguely last night and found an email to you from John Beevis regarding the Weybourne Bowls Club.  Please, please put him in contact with me.  I have the original deed when my wife Pauline's grandmother Mrs Monement gave the bowling green to Weybourne ex Servicemen's Association in 1949.
Many thanks
Richard
From: John Beevis
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:18 PM
Subject: Monement Family (Weybourne)
Dear Val
            I understand that you are a very busy person but, I am curious as to the name of our local Green Bowls Club in Weybourne. I am Captain of the club and, understand the the green was donated to the village by a Mr Monement for use as a bowls green, there is a board at the green displaying "Monement Bowls Club" but I know nothing else can you help please as I would like to know it's origin and perhaps a little about the Family. the search engine led my to your site.
 
                                                                 Gratefully in anticipation   John Beevis

Many thanks,
Bob Monement
topidea@att.net

From: john herron
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:23 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Hancocks
Hi,
   
Salthouse is of particular interest to me (John) as I am related to the Hancock family which I have read about on your history website pages.
 
My grandfather was Joseph Hancock who was born and lived in the North East. His father Thomas Hancock was from the Salthouse area born in 1869 and moved to the North East to find work. His father was Samuel Hancock who married Charlotte Williams in 1867.
 
My grandfather had three daughters (my mother being one) so the Hancock name did not continue through my side of the family. However I know my mother and my aunt have more details on the family history which I am interested in following up.
   
Many thanks 

John & Debbie Herron

I'm hoping Hancock researchers may spot this message and get in contact with me Val . . ..
From: Honor
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:57 PMTo: salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Onesiphorus RANDALL

Dear Val, I have been tracing a little about this Onesiphorus RANDAL, who built the " Folly", with considerable help from members of the Norfolk List.. He was born in Cley and baptised Aug 22nd, 1798, the son of John & Elizabeth RANDALL, late HOOKE.The father  John RANDALL was a widower when he married Elizabeth HOOKE, in Cley on May 5, 1789.  I suspect that he had previusly been married to a Mary, and also produced children in Cley. This Mary perhaps died in 1787 aged 28 yrs old.The children of John & Elizabeth were Sabrina, Naomi, Eliza, Onesiphorus, Richard, Pamela, and Elizabeth Maria. When Sabrina was baptised, the parents John & Elizabeth did not have to pay the baptism tax, (noted as being poor). It appears that Onesiphorus moved to London, the Poplar area, in 1819, married twice, and died in 1873, aged 75.  An excellent description regarding this remarkable man who achieved so much, is found at this URL.http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=46489 showing his developments in London. In the 1871 census for 183 East India Road, where he resided for many years he is with his second wife Mary, and more importantly his general servant is one MARY A. SPENCE, aged 23, unmarried and born in Salthouse. 1871 Census. East India Road.Onesiphorus RANDALL, Head  Mar. aged 70 Retired builder, born Clay [Cley]Mary A. RANDALL Wife Mar. aged 29  born Bermondsey, Middx.Mary A. SPENCE, Servant. Unmarried aged 23.  General Servant. born Salthouse, Norfolk. According to the British History site, When Onesiphorus died there was a legal battle in Chancery regarding his estate, possibly with his second wife (who he may have married when she was 19 and he was 60) and his son Onesiphorusm son of the first wife Anna,  who won the case evidently and he died in 1913. 

Honor. Vanc. Island.

 

From: Steve Lee
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:36 AMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: High Photos

A present to use as you wish but please don’t chop off the “Lee family collection” thing on each photo.
 Some you may have seen before.

Elsie High Robert Johnson' shows my mum then Elsie High with her grandfather Robert “Boots” Johnson. Boots was first a fishermen, was elected onto Sheringham’s first parish council in 1894 and then “moved with the times” and ran a deckchair and beach tent business. His “patch” was the West End beach whereas Gofather Pegg “owned” the East End. Shame he didn’t have a name like Gofather or a spider poem as Gofather is the one everyone remembers!
'Henry Mary Ann Jary' you’ve probably seen this before but not as large or as clear. This is Henry High and wife Mary Ann “Polly” Jary, father and mother of Jimmy High
'JimmyHigh Whelk CopperGates' is Jimmy High creating the Whelk Copper gates at the Drift Way Sheringham for millionaire E.W. Meyerstein.
'Jimmy Mary Ethel...' is one you’ve bound to have but again not this size or as clear.

'Mary Dawson Elsie High Nancy High' is one I doubt you’ve seen and is of the cousins Mary Dawson daughter of Jack Dawson and Ethel High, my mum Elsie High daughter of Jimmy and Laura Sarah Johnson and Nancy High daughter of Jack (John William) High and his wife Sabra Ann Dawson.

 Steve

Val says:

 

I have most of them online already but yours are better quality. 'Elsie High and 'Boots' Johnson' I hadn't seen - it's lovely!
I have attached the photos so new people can see them by clicking here on each thumbnail to enlarge on the spot! (use X Exit to close boxes)
They aren't all done yet - will be in a few minutes (or hours) Val

 

From: Steve Lee
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:42 PM
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Subject: High family research update.

Hello Val.

 I am Steve Lee youngest son of Elsie Lee (nee High) and grandson of James Henry (Jimmy) High born in Salthouse and blacksmith of Sheringham. I think you have previously corresponded with both my brother Derek and my sister Gillian Read regarding Jimmy’s autobiography.I’ve attached a document that contains a lot of new information on the early High’s of Salthouse.  My inspiration came from Fred High’s work that’s on the brilliant Salthouse family history website. Fred and I have been in regular contact over the last year exchanging ideas and thoughts on all the new finds.

 We are both in agreement that we are ready to share everything new with everyone and Fred has just sent out the document to all his High relatives and contacts around the world for comment. I’d love to hear both your and the High’s of Salthouse thoughts on what we’ve found and would be pleased if you could include our new finds on the website so that everyone can read about them.
I live in Ipswich so not far away and have a week’s holiday booked with my family at Stiffkey in September. We holiday at either Stiffkey or Sheringham most years and visit Salthouse regularly and especially enjoy the heath as both my wife’s family and of course my own have  great memories of Salthouse and the surrounding area.Hope you enjoy the read!Regards

Steve Lee

click here to see Steve's attachment

(I find it absolutely fascinating!)

Val

see Fred High's latest message
to all the High's in his list on
Fred's pages click here to read it
at 'STOP PRESS'

 

From: debbie north
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:55 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: dew family
Hello val,
Firstly a big thank you for your website. I have been researching my family tree and it has been invaluable in my research. I discovered on the 1901 census that my gt grandfather, John Dew hadbeen born in Norfolk and stumbled on your site which has now let me go back to 1747!  I thought you mightbe interested in filling in thegaps in the Dew family tree.(my ancestors)
George Dew(b approx 1833), who married Martha moved to Hull between 1881 & 1891.  His son, John Dew married Ann and amongst others had my grandfather Frank, who amongst others had my father  Albert, who has just me Debbie. It seems that there was quite a large Dew family in Salthouse, and I assume (and hope!) that I may have some living distant cousins in the area?  Any further information you have would be gratefuly received!
Regards,
Debbie North (nee Dew)
From: geraldine stoddart
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:21 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: salthouse history
Hello, my name is Geraldine I have a picture of a cottage in Salthouse dated 1917 and initialled S.W.S the cottage is called Rose cottage.
The drawing shows a church in the background and I would be interested to know if you have any information linked to this area of Salthouse around 1917.
I bought the little sketched picture in a second hand shop over 10 years ago and have often thought it would be nice to find out more about its origin.
I look forward to hearing from you
 
kind regards

Geraldine
Hi Val, I forgot to add that there is a name written in pencil on the back of drawing the name is Irene  Corbitt  or maybe Gorbitt from what I can make out.
I live in Birmingham thats where I came upon the picture. 
 
All the best
Geraldine

Val says; This is a fascinating picture so clearly named and dated and very obviously painted on the spot with the church exactly as S.W.S. saw it - I now think it's the top of Cross Street - I must try and take a photo from the same spot!

Here it is:

*the hedge growth in today's picture obviously hides the view of the church completely!
*the chimneys are identical to how they were in 1917

*The cottage is now called
'Applewood Yard' and has been called that since Gerald Cubitt was born there over 80 years ago!

'Here>'points to the cottage at the top of Cross Street.

From: Bill Jervis Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:58 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Dix family

The missing seventh child of Charlotte and Samuel Dix in your history is my mother-in-law. Her name was Margaret. She died in Norwich c1970. Her daughter, Nancy, was born in Salthouse, at her grandmother's. Mother and child were collected by Richard Lines, husband and father, and taken by pony and trap (1931) to West Runton. Richard and his mother founded the Newsagents, Tobacconists, Fruiterers and Sweet shops, almost opposite West Runton garage. I married Nancy in 1954. Margaret left Salthouse, when she was a young girl, with her sister Charlotte. They worked for Mrs Reynolds, at Beeston Priory Farm. Margaret told me that she had the first decent meal of her life when she started work for Mrs Reynolds.Mrs Reynolds remained her friend for the rest of her life. 
The almost idyllic picture which comes through on your site is very much at variance with what I know about the unbelievably hard times  at the beginning of the 20th century.

From: Wendy Morgan Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:45 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: RE: Salthouse History

Val - great news!  Sharon and I have made contact.  She lives only 90 miles from me.  We're making plans to meet.  Thanks again for your help and this wonderful connection!
 
Take care,
Wendy
From: Sharon Bishop Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:11 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Re: Purdy family

Val, Wendy Morgan finally did contact me today by email.  Funny thing, she lives in Seattle, WA 85 miles from where I live in Bellingham, WA.  It will be great to have a family member who is interested in doing research.  All of my cousins are only interested in what I find - not in finding it!  Thanks so much for your help.  Sharon Bishop, USA.

From: Wendy Morgan Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:48 PMTo: val.fiddian@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Salthouse History

Hi Val,In July 2007 and 2009, Sharon Bishop emailed regarding William Purdy Bishop (1861-1907).  I am his great-great-granddaughter, and would love to contact her.  I’ve just begun my search, and was so excited to see her messages.  The internet is amazing.  Thanks so much for your site and your help!Take care,

Wendy Morgan

(In July 2007 Sharon Bishop said:" I am an American looking for my ancestors. My name is Sharon Bishop. I am the great-granddaughter of William Purdy Bishop (1861-1907) who was the grandson of William Purdy. ...") I have now put Wendy in touch with Sharon - Val

From: . KUHLMANN Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 8:42 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: Elsie May Grange - daughter of William Grange and Alice (Nellie) DAck

Hello. I have been searching for a Elsie May Grange who was briefly married to my grandfather, John Douglas Stewart, during WW1 - his pay was assigned to her from 1915 until he was demobilized in 1919. She lived with John's brother, Colin Fairbairn Stewart on Marmaduke Street, in Toronto, for a time. I discovered notice of a divorce without a date, but another relative tells me the divorce occurred in 1922. [This would be quite a scandal, since he married my grandmother in 1922!!] Your page on the family indicates she was still alive in 1968, married to a Boyd, and living in Downey California. (I am definitely not certain they are one and the same person at this point). Can you put me in touch with any of her family that I might be able to contact in order to ascertain if she is the Elsie May Grange that I have been trying to find? Thank you. ...Peter W. Kuhlmann. Newcastle, Ontario, Canada.

[I have put Peter in touch with Jenny Adams, the Dack family Expert! -Val]

From: GILLIAN FEARNLEY Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:55 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: hmms princess victoria

Hi Val,     My name is Gillian and through doing family history i found out that  Walter Campsall Scutt was on the Princess Victoria when it sank. Sadly he died. My grandmother spoke often about him. Can you enlighten me about the ship and what happened to her.                       Thank's very much
                               Gillian

Hi Gillian,
There has been much correspondence about HMS Princess Victoria on the salthousehistory website. If you click here: http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/past%20messages.html#victoria  you can see several messages on the subject.
But it is all sometime ago now and unfortunately due to a computer crash I have lost the email addresses concerned.
However I think you will find plenty on the web: Try this: http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?22,66343,66343 

This is the best I can do!
Kind regards
Val

From: Richard Myhill
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:02 PMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: RICE in Salthouse

Hello Val,I hope you are keeping well,your website is looking fabulous,and full of information.I am writing as I have noticed that Jean Jeggo is going through the AT's to salvage more information.If she comes across the name Rice I would be very interested,my wife's line ends with Edmund Rice,no date of birth,and no marriage,but his wife was Elizabeth Harmon from Weybourne,and their first child Elizabeth was baptised in Weybourne 26.05.1740.Further children were baptised in Salthouse before the family moved to Gimmingham.Any help at all would be very much appreciated.Bye,Richard
From: Jane KewTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:10 AMSubject: William Kew

I noticed in the list of Salthouse marriages that Mary Chapman married William Kew in 1781.  I don't know if he is my ancestor.  I am descended from John Kew, father of George Kew, born in Norwich.in 1813.  I am trying to find out who John Kew's parents were.  Thanks for any information you might have. 
 Jane Kew 
 
Many people have asked me[Val]why there is a gap in the marriage records for Salthouse, so this message from Jean who transcribed the Buried Records of 1538 - 1713 after they were restored (click here to see all about them and here to see Jean) may interest many researchers.
We hope to show Jean's work online on this site before long.
From: Jean Jeggo Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:32 PMTo: Val Fiddian
Subject: Re: Monty

The dates of the marriage records that are missing are between Oct 1689 and Mar 1755. It seems rather a long time for there to be no marriages at all as there were usually one or two at least for each year. In my personal family history there are quite a few marriages that I have not been able to trace so far but of course they may or may not have taken place elsewhere. The births and deaths do not seem to have any long periods missing.
I am now going through the damaged register filling in all the gaps in the Archbishop's Transcripts. I think by the time I have done that there will be quite a complete record from 1714 with only a few gaps. I can usually work out missing surnames from previous or subsequent entries with the same Christian names so it is proving quite satisfying although I would still like to know where they recorded the marriages. Do you know if there was another register which is still damaged and not conserved where they might be? I think there is a period of about thirty years where there are no marriages in the ATs.
 

The letter below was sent to the Blakeney Area History Society by Ray Dunn. If Glen Matthews (whose address I sadly no longer have) should spot this - do please get in touch with me, Val!

From: RAY DUNN To: chrisb@postmaster.co.uk ; valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:40 AMSubject: Thomas Dunn - Elsy?

Hi guys

I wonder if you can assist.  On one of the Salthouse website pages:
http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/arnold.html
shows a letter from Glen (January 26, 2005) detailing a tree from Thomas Dunn of the seventeenth century
"The family have traced the Elsy line back to John Elsey who married Cicely Dunn on 4th October 1724. I have traced her family back about another 50 years to her father Thomas Dunn my 7times great grandfather."

I am aware of the 1725 will of Thomas Dunn of Salthouse in which he “bequeath unto Thomas my naturall Son all …… Cottage Sittuate near ye [West?] Street in Salthouse & aforesaid together with all the houses & outhouses for [Edifice?] and buildings yards orchards & gardens together with land…” and notes that “after his decease I bequeath unto Thos Dunn my Grandson & his heirs & assignees forever”. 

I have still not manages to find the Elsy tree (or the Salthouse Thomas Dunn's and am still 'stuck' at 'my' Thomas in the mid eighteenth century - but can track no other contemporaneous Thomas's in the Area - or st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } the one who is the subject of a marriage bond for a Thomas Dunn of Blakeney in 1790 held at Norwich records office (and possibly his son).  Since grandson, g grandson, gg grandson and ggg grandson are all named Thomas, I am intrigued.

Do you have any way of contacting the Elsy's or Glen Matthews to find their information on the various Thomas Dunn's and tree they have please.  It is a year since I contacted you guys and, though I have filled in much more recent information, I have 'struck out' with getting past my gx5 grandfather in N Norfolk.

Best regards
Ray Dunn

From: Ed Olley Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:06 AMTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Subject: James Olley at the Old Balaclava Cottage

Dear Val.I am Edward G. Olley Jr., a Registered Architect from upper New York State in the USA, and most interested to see if this reaches you. Research from my “Family Tree” brings me to James Olley, who is mentioned numerous times on your website. Coincidentally, this old fellow seems to portray family traits common to many of my relatives who came to the USA, through Canada, from England years ago. Although I have some information on him, such as the “Light Brigade” and such, I am curious if any of your followers might share with me anything more they may know. Also, I would like to say “hello” to any other of his descendents such as myself. Thank you for your time and efforts, Best Regards,

Edward G. Olley Jr. AIA

From:Margaret LakeTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:00 PMSubject: Beckham House
Hi ValMay I , through you, say a very big thank you to Malcolm Highfor the info. on Beckham House. It's good to have his personal information and it has been a great help. Thanks again for an excellent sitekeep up the good work Margaret Lake  
Kind regards Margaret Lake (Richardson)
From: Malcolm HighTo: val.fiddian@hotmail.co.uk Sent: 27th February 2010Subject: The Caston High clan

The Caston High clanIt is two yeas since I complimented this website and much has happened since that time which continues to draw interest.Whilst my Norfolk years were not spent in the immediate area it is apparent that my lineage can be traced back there. The reporting of current events and photographs of the same are adding to the pleasure of looking at the same. I must say Marilyn`s winter scene photos are to be commended and the `pathway to the Church` through the snow is excellent. At one time I did comment on the way the website helps to bring people together and that is continually in evidence. Some time back I did comment on visiting the area and speaking as had been suggested to me to a retired fisherman in Cley when seeking information about the Caston-High clan and he mentioned a lady of that name from Wells who had married a Policeman thought to be retired in Norwich. Perchance the daughter read the same and eventually contacted me mentioning that her Brother was at that time Lord Mayor of Norwich. That was a nice bonus. So thanks again for all the efforts !

 Malcolm High

From: David Symons To: val.fiddian@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:26 PMSubject: Dix Family
Hello Val I have just found your fascinating items on the Dix family and especially James Dix (b1832) who was my 3rd Great Grandfather. I live in Blyth Nothumberland, my mother Audrey Symons (nee Dix) in Bedlington. My grandfather, James Dix, who was born in South Shields in 1908 died in 2001 at the age of 92 in Bedlington also; he was a retired colliery manager. I am only recently into genealogy and still finding my way but have made some rapid progress already. I hope to visit Satlhouse sometime as my 3rd great grandmother (Mary Hanconck) was also from the village and I would like to find out more. Thanks to yourself and friends of Salthouse who have put together the web pages it has brought my research to life! Regards 
David Symons

From:Malcolm High To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:34 PM
Subject: Beckham House Residential Home
Hi Val, Belatedly I noticed Margaret Lakes (Richardson) email about the above Home. I am pleased to be able to send some personal information about the same from around the period that Margaret mentions she was born there. In my early teens I was a member of the Sheirngham salvaiton Army Junior Band and every Christmas we went to play Carols there. Sucessive advent seasons have often found me remembering those times with a lump in my throat when I recalled the parent(s) and children whom it would appear had no home to celebrate in. There was a warmth in the reception we received mixed with the sadness we felt.Margaret mentions her birth there and the circumstances which seem indicative of societies attitude at that time. Further in my late teens I became a Candidate for the Salvation Army ministry and as such were expected to raise some sponsorship towards the same. I can never forget that a man from Beckham House regularly came to worship on a Sunday evening and when he learned of the collection duly handed me a Ten Shilling note which was to me quite a sum. The other memory I have was of a widowed man who became very frail and too much for his relatives to dela with and he became a reisdent at Beckhem for a short time prior to his death. It was unfortunately termed a ¬Workhouse` but one has to add it provided a range of care for various needs at that time which were unprovided for by the State or in my book when the 1948 National Assistance Act was only being implemented.  I trust that this personal information will be helpful to Margaret. 
Malcolm High 

SEE Margaret's letter below, click here to go there

From: Jeremy Nicholson To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:34 PMSubject: Salthouse Marriages, 1909 - 1949

Dear Val,

I came across your site quite by accident while Googling my family history. It was such a wonderful surprise to find my grandparents' marriage recorded there! You might just like to update your records slightly to clear up a couple of transcription errors that I spotted.

Marriage No. 16 was between Harry Nelson JEFFERIS (no 'e' before the 's') and Rosina Ethel STRODE. Similarly, the groom's father was Frederick Lionel JEFFERIS.

The Mary Ann Primrose STRODE listed as a witness was the bride's sister. The two gentlemen witnesses were other army officers. The whole marriage was organised very quickly to coincide with my grandfather's leave from the army... In such a rush, in fact, that there had been no time to buy a ring, and so my grandparents were married with James Carne's wife's ring![see letter below!]The very next day my grandfather and his company left for France, so the the honeymoon was one night only!

Thanks so much for running the site and preserving people's family histories!

With kind regards,

Jeremy Nicholson.
From: Jeremy Nicholson To: Val Fiddian Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:21 PMSubject: Re: Salthouse Marriages, 1909 - 1949

Dear Val,

Thank you for acting so quickly on my email and correcting your records.

My Mum was thrilled to hear of your website, and after chatting with her, it's now my turn to correct something. The ring used at the wedding belonged to a Mrs. Gunton, the wife of an army officer who gave my grandmother away. James Carne was apparently the best man.

When my grandfather's orders to return to France came through, my grandmother and her sister travelled by train from the family home in Bristol at a couple of days' notice. Everything was arranged so quickly there was no opportunity to organise a photographer, unfortunately. However there was time to get together a military band and a salute of crossed swords for the newlyweds to walk through on leaving the church. It seems that 18th April 1918 was a snowy day in Salthouse!


Thanks again for your help.
Dear Jeremy,
The name Gunton rang a bell - and I was right! the paragraph below found on www.salthousehistory.co.uk/dawsonmary.html which was originally a part of the Salthouse Book (now out of print),  was by an 80 yearold I talked to when I first came here in 1997 who was brought up in the Manor House. There is actually a photo of the Gunton's baby daughter in the book! - Again it brings things to life
    Mary Lemmon, née Dawson, wrote: "My mother, having completed her training as a dress-maker, returned to Salthouse to live with her parents.
    She and my father, a soldier in the First World War, married in 1915, and when he was invalided out of the army
    they took over the Manor House, using it as a Guest House.

    During the war, officers were billeted with them, and Captain Gunton's wife and daughter joined him there.
    They continued to return for holidays for many years."

I'm so pleased that your Mum can  enjoy the website.Kind regards

Val


Kind regards,
Jeremy.
From: paula round To: amanda brown Cc: Val Fiddian Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:49 PMSubject: RE: pigotts

Bingo, I think I got them. The people on rootschat came up trumps and found this family on the 1871 census their surname had been transcribed as Peggott!. In the household their wasHead - William Peggott b. 1836 Master MarinerWife - Sarah A. Peggott b. 1846Son - Thomas b. 1869Daughter - Florence b. 1870Daughter - Mary J. b. 1867 - Salthouse I am just waiting for all the other places of birth from Neale at rootschat to know exactly where they fit, but have a theory which I am pretty certain of. I have 2 Wm's born abt 1836 in my family tree, Wiliam was a very common name in the Pigott family. One Wm married Sarah Ann Hamblen, however when I looked into this one in detail I already have all their children in that line, and none of the names are the same, have also found them on all the census and their children were born at the same time as the ones in Alison family so have ruled this one out. The second William I have also tracked through the census' and he was always unmarried. So I started for scratch again looking for a Wm Pigott who married a Sarah sometime around 1865ish. This record came up which also helps on the Christianna link so I'm sure this is Blanche's parents Marriage Sep 1865 South Shields, County DurhamWilliam Pigott & Sarah Ann Hancock vol 10a page 754 (if you want to buy the certificate). Christianna Hancock did indeed have a sister named Sarah Ann b. 1841 in Salthouse. I had thought this sister had died around 1861 as hadn't been able to find her. So we have now proved your link to me through the Hancock/Moy family. So I can now definatly say we are related but I can't add you to my tree until I find out a birth place for William Pigott as it now looks like we may be doubly related! I now think it must be this William's father I have in my family tree rather than this William himself and I am sure the birth place will help us to place him. I have attached for you details of your Moy/Hancock ancestors but hope that Val will be able to put you in touch with one of the Hancock researchers who will be able to take you further with that name as I am only a direct descendant of the Moy's on Blanche's mother's line. I hope you have a good family history programme as your family tree is about to get a lot bigger, Salthouse families back then were very big!!! It may also be worth hanging off putting everyone in until we work out exactly where your Pigott's fit as this may add in a few inter-family links, which are complicated to add later. The village families did tend to marry other village families (I know that sounds bad but they weren't all blood relatives to each other! though my great great grandparents were 1st cousins! from Salthouse) My direct Pigott line also followed the fish up to South Shields from Salthouse (though followed the fishes is a bit of a misdenoma as quite a few ended up down the mines), after South Shields a lot of Salthouse families moved on to the new town of Middlesbrough and worked as Mariners again.  When you look at the tree I have attached you will see that Martha Ann Moy was the grandmother of Blanche, her sister Sarah Ann (who had 11 kids) was my 4x great gran. Sarah married William Pigott b.1799 in Weybourne, Wm Pigott 1799 was the first of our Pigotts to make the arduous journey all of 10ish miles from Weybourne to Salthouse and is the cause of all the Pigotts in Salthouse, there 11 kids went on to have lots of kids (some of the lines had up to16). I suspect Blanch's father William was born in Weybourne but wouldn't rule out Southery or Sherringham, as I have pretty much got all the established Pigotts of Salthouse in my tree in large part due to Val's wonderful website. Anyhow have rattled on enough for tonight will let you know what I find out Blanch's father soon. Kind Regards Paula

From: "paula round"
To: "Val Fiddian" <salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: amanda.brown
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: pigotts

Hi Val and Amanada (my new cousin I'm sure)

I have been aware of Amanda's line for sometime as when I have time I work though all Norfolk Pigott's working out how they fit in. However this line has been an enigma to me for sometime, I feel sure they will fit into my family but as to were I have always struggled with. I actually have them on my one day list to buy some certificates to prove the link, but haven't been buying any certs other than my many great grandparents for a while as the cost of the wedding I'm arranging is still rising.

I did quite a lot of searching since your e-mail came in re-checking all the internet resources I have access to and as suspected these didn't help with this line. All is not lost though.

If Amanda was willing to buy Blanche's birth certificate, it would clear up all the confusion straight away, allow me to place Amanada's line in the tree and allow me to to take her back to the 1650's.

Amanda if you would be happy to buy the certificate I will happily guide you through the process, its pretty painless and only cost £7 or £8. If you go to this website http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ register, then put in these details (so you get the cheaper price) where it asks you:-

Surname - Pigott
Firstname - Blanch
District - Erpingham
Quarter March
Year - 1876
Volume - 4b
Page - 67

The certificate will take a max of two weeks to arrive and will give you both parents names and the occupations, I'm sure with these the mystery would be solved and I would be more than happy to help you take your line back further. Val and I would also be very interested in what it says. As though 4 of the children were born in Salthouse, they are not baptised there which is a little strange!

Christiana Hanock is already in my family tree as she was a daughter of Samuel Hancock and Martha Moy, I'm a direct Moy descendant as well as a Pigott one. But I cant find any of

Elizabeth Youngs is a bit of an enigma to as she was born in Salthouse before the baptisms on Val's site and I cant seem to find a marriage for her, tried searching on Youngs as the male name and Elizabeth as female first name in Erpingham (also tried Young), tried a few other searches two with no response. Though I expect Elizabeth is a red herring and is the Head of a household only containing herself, or owns the house the girls are living in but rents out a couple of rooms to them.

Also looked through the 1871 census on Val's website as Florence was born in 1861 hoped they might of been there and have asked on roots chat for a UK 1871 census check. I don't currently have full access to that census.

Woudl you mind letting me know what your grandfather was called and when he was born? I think you mention he was born in the workhouse, this rings some bells with me as I do have one Pigott family who had a child while the mother was in the workhouse, but the names dont match with Blanch.

Sorry I can't write better news, I look forward to hearing from you both in the near future, and am now going to spend a bit of time before bed getting re-acquainted with Val's wonderful website.

Kind Regards

Paula
From: amanda brown To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:23 PMSubject: pigott of salthouse.

hi val.first off,brilliant website.How ever i am a little confused. Listed in the 1881 census entry 56, is a Blanche pigott who i believe is my great-grandmother,she is listed along with who i assume are her 4 sisters,and a housekeeper.However i can not figure out who the parents of these girls are. Entry 54,lists john and mary pigott and their 3 daughters,i did at first think that they were all one family but on reading further information on john and mary on the pigott page it does state that they did only have 4 daughters ( 1 being born after the census). any ideas how i can find who they are the daughters of and also the housekeeper is stated as s-in-law,but to who? very confusing!!  I have traced Blanche pigott on the 1911 census also,unfortunately she was at Beckham workhouse ,also listed was my grandfather who was just 6 mths old at that time. I also believe that one of Blanches sisters was the matron of the workhouse at this time but as yet have been unable to find this information. i do know that Blanche and my grandfather left the workhouse but again not sure on the dates of that either. I would be grateful for any information you think might help me in my quest to find my family roots.

yours sincerely;
amanda brown.
 Val answered::   
Hi Amanda, How interesting!   I'm looking at the 1881 census and I see it looks as if the widow  Elizabeth Youngs.is the head of that whole family?. and an elder daughter than Blanche (aged 10) was born in South Sheilds . . .
 . . . If you found her in the workhouse in 1911 One can suppose she went there (-aged 35?) to have her son, as many seemed to have done in those times.
I will try to get in touch with a great Pigott family researcher called Paula Round - if I can get hold of her email address from a friend. (I lost it with others in my last computer crash!) Perhaps she will be able to help
I'm not really any kind of genealogist myself, just a collector of information for Salthouse. I've done quite a lot to do with genealogy but no research outside Salthouse.There are so many good websites on genealogy nowadays who might be more help to you.However if I can locate Paula I'll put her in touch with you. 
From: amanda brown Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:54 PM
 
hi val,thanks for the reply, I was actually looking through the information again when I received your e-mail. I didn't know whether to go down the route of looking into Elizabeth Youngs but wasn't sure if it would lead me anywhere. I have found Blanche on the 1891 census ,as working in Cley in domestic service,she then appears on the 1901 census,again as a domestic servant,this time in London. then as I said she is back in norfolk on the 1911 census. One of the other girls listed is a Martha Ann, now my mum can remember as a child that every christmas they would receive a parcel from an ' aunt Martha ' posted from south shields,so I know there is definately a connection with that part of the country.I'm just wondering now if they were possibly nieces of john and mary pigott. once again thank you for your help and a contact with Paula Round would be brilliant.

yours sincerely
amanda brown

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:37 PM

hi val. yes by all means post my letters on the board, it would be great if someone had some information to enlighten me. I've always been intrigued with this side of my family,there has never been much to go on regarding information,so it would be nice to find out a little about my roots,my grandfather never revealed who his father was, although his birth certificate stated father unknown, apparently that wasn't the case,but my grandfather took that information to his grave with him for reasons we will never know.However the search will continue and centre around Blanche and her sisters.i have just been informed that my mum seems to think that either herself or my aunt, may have Blanche's birth certificate so thats exciting,i will keep you informed on that one!
Best wishes
amanda                          [SEE PAULA'S REPLY on Jan 23rd above^]
From: Richard Adderson To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:40 PMSubject: Website
Hi I came across the Salthouse website recently and thoroughly enjoyed browsing through it. I attach a photograph which my father took in the aftermath of the 1953 floods which may be of some interest. Please feel free to use it if you wish. Best wishes Richard Adderson


Thanks very much Richard I will add it to the 1953 flood page (I put the little overhead view in too where you can see that gap on the corner)--ValInteresting view of damage after the 1953 floodThis pic shows the scene from above!

From: Margaret Lake To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:12 PMSubject: Beckham House
Dear Mrs FiddianI came across your excellent website whilst browsing for information on Beckham House West Beckham and I am hoping that you can help me. I was born on July 1st 1947 in Beckham House and I would dearly love to find out the history of the place. All I know is that it was the workhouse until the 1930's but what I would like to find out is what the building was in 1947. My mother was unmarried and not wanted at home so I am wondering was it a home for unmarried mothers, or maybe still a workhouse (hopefully not the latter!!)I was adopted when I was 4 weeks old. I am in contact with my mother we met up again 5 years ago, after lots of research, but she is 86 now and not very forthcoming with information and I wouldn't want to upset her by asking lots of questions.  Any information you can come up with will be very much appreciated.  
Yours hopefully Margaret Lake (nee Richardson)
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:29 PMSubject: Re: Beckham House
Hi Val, many thanks for your prompt reply
Certainly you can put my letter on your message page, who knows there may be somebody out there who knows about "Beckham Palace"
From: Lynne Burns To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:14 AMSubject: RAMM
Hello Val,I would like to make contact with Byran regarding the Ramm family Tree, please.regardsLynne Burns
New Zealand
From: yvonne north To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:05 PMSubject: William Fen Allen
Hi Val I have just discovered your excellent site, well done on all your hard work.  Kathleen Margaret Shearing nee Allen (my husband's grandmother) was one of William Fen Allen and Margaret Powell's children. I love the photo of Samuel and Elizabeth Allen posted by Jackie Harris and was wondering if it would be possible for you to put me in touch with her.  I would be happy for you to pass on my e.mail to any interested parties.  Many thanks 
Yvonne North 

Unfortunately due to a crash sometime ago, I no longer have Jackie's email address!
Anne Woodcock and Neil B Lewis are two others interested in this family. Please get in touch and I can connect you to Yvonne!!
Val

From: Richard Jefferson
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: John Beevis

Dear Val

Your Salthouse website is a gem. I get an important contact about once a year from it!

I was surfing vaguely last night and found an email to you from John Beevis regarding the Weybourne Bowls Club.  Please, please put him in contact with me.  I have the original deed when my wife Pauline's grandmother Mrs Monement gave the bowling green to Weybourne ex Servicemen's Association in 1949.

Many thanks

Richard

From: John Beevis
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:18 PM
Subject: Monement Family (Weybourne)

Dear Val
            I understand that you are a very busy person but, I am curious as to the name of our local Green Bowls Club in Weybourne. I am Captain of the club and, understand the the green was donated to the village by a Mr Monement for use as a bowls green, there is a board at the green displaying "Monement Bowls Club" but I know nothing else can you help please as I would like to know it's origin and perhaps a little about the Family. the search engine led my to your site.
 
                                                                 Gratefully in anticipation   John Beevis

From: Julie Moran To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:07 AMSubject: Moore/Matthew's Families
G'day ValI've just received a marriage certificate for

April 1839

Jeremiah MOORE

Seaman

Salthouse

Elizabeth MATTHEWS

Salthouse

Robert Matthews
Elizabeth Gibbs
John Matthews

W.E.Girdlestone
Rector

 Now I know Jeremiah Moores' father was Charles Moore.I found this from your web-site


Charles MOORE

Salthouse

20 May 1848

73

J. G. Girdlestone Rector

I also know that Elizabeth Matthews father was Robert Matthews I found this from your web-site

Robert MATTHEWS

Salthouse

3 Nov 1853

76

J. G. Girdlestone Rector

 I was wondering if these are the right people???I think this entry might be Charles Moore's wife

Elizabeth MOORE

Salthouse

6 May 1842

63

I have printed out your wonderful pages on burials/baptisms and marriages concerning the Matthews/Moores'. I will sit down and try to connect everyone. Your web-site is the best site I've ever seen. I have been researching my family history for over 25 years, and your site is the best I've ever found. The work that you have put into this site is outstanding. Well done! Is anyone researching Moore or Matthews lines??? If you have any info on these families I would truely appreciate any help you may be able to give me.My e-mail address is: jmo18042ATbigpond.net.au [I've done it like this to prevent the automatics picking it up! -Val (If anyone can help Julie, do contact her)]As you might be able to tell, I am from Australia. I'm hoping to visit England in the next 5 years, and will certainly be coming to Salthouse.
Looking forward to hearing from you. Julie Moran
Maitland, NSW

From: PhilipShepheard
To:
valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:08 PM
Subject: Salthouse family names

I am the present keeper of the Shepheard family tree and have records back to 1585.. The family lived in North Norfolk from Walsingham to Happisburgh and Bacton and are well represented in the Erpingham churchyard.  They intermarried with the Cubitt family but they are absent from the list on your site.  Congratulations on a very interesting site.

regards                                           [Any one wanting information about Shepheards or being able to supply info, do contact -Val]

Philip Shepheard

From: Marie Heilbrunn To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:54 AM
Subject: LYNN family from Salthouse

Hello ValCongratulations on your wonderful web site!I am researching the family of LYNN family of Salthouse. Susanna LYNN Baptism on FreeREG County Norfolk Place Swannington Church St Margaret’s Register Number 11 Baptism Date 11 Mar 1814 Forename Susanna Sex F Father Forename Valentine  Mother Forename Martha Father Surname LYNN  Father Occupation Labourer Notes  File Number 3333. In 1830 in Norwich, Norfolk, England, Thomas SAWYER, wheelwright, married Susannah LYNN and most of their children and their descendants were given the second name of LYNN. In 1869 Thomas and Susan and their entire family, fifteen in all, emigrated to Melbourne VIC on SS Great Britain. The family then settled in Balmain Sydney NSW AUS

Just letting you know that there are lots of LYNN BMD on the this website www.freereg.org.uk

Regards

Marie

From: Rexie Akwei-Fraser
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: Dix & Trudgill

Dear Val,

I wonder if you have details of the children of John Dix & Elizabeth Jary (married 1829)?
A John Dix b 1804 Salthouse, was my children's gx3 greatgrandfather. He married an Elizabeth (I don't know her maiden name). 
His children are: Rachel, Adam, Anel, William, Elizabeth, Honor, John, Thirza and David.
His son John b. Salthouse 1842, was a Master Mariner, who ended up on South Shields, then County Durham .Is he any relative of James Dix the master mariner on your site?
Also, I wonder if you can help me with a John Trudgill b 1832 Tibenham. He married Ann Mears. 1901 census shows he moved to South Shields as well.

Look forward to hearing from you. I'll prepare in more detail the info I have on the Salthouse folk and send it on - you might find it useful for your website.

Regards
Rexie

click HERE for- Rexie's South Shields descendants of John Dix of Salthouse

CHRIS WATSON!! - if you see this please contact.
I no longer have your email address! - Val
From: JOHN TODD
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:46 PM
Subject: dews of salthouse

Hi Val I was pleased to have the oppurtunity of chatting with you when I called at your home last Sunday.I have found the Salthouse History Site to be very useful, and I thank you for giving me the web address.I am attaching a photo of the gravestone situated in St Nicholas churchyard in Wells which first  aroused my interest in the Dews of Salthouse and the Coes of wells. I found the verse at the bottom quite moving. I have also been trying to find out who wrote these words, so far without success although I have found them used on Tapestries and also on childrens' mugs dated around 1840.Much of what I had discovered for myself about the Dews was already there on your site had I known about it. However, it does confirm that I was on the right track I believe it is quite feasible that Thomas Dew who married Hannah Pointin in Sept 1859 and died himself just two months later at the age of 29 years, could be the Thomas Dew who had married Susannah Coe in 1848 a few months prior to her death in March 1849. He would have been about the same age as Susannah. Unfortunately I don't know how to prove or disprove this theory with the information available to me.
I wonder if you have any views or suggestions ? Kind Regards John Todd Peterborough 
 
From: Sharon Bishop To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:44 PMSubject: Salthouse Purdy's

My name is Sharon Bishop and I wrote to you previously in July of 2007.  I was looking at the messages and noticed a link to the surname list of inquiries.  There is a Roy Purdy who inquired on the current page about the surname Purdy but I can't find his message.  There is also a Brian Purdy on the 2005 list.  I would like to know if you have any contact information on either of them.  I am a great-great granddaughter of Mary Ann Purdy and would like to contact anyone researching that name or William & Robert Purdy.   Just last month I was lucky enough to find a used copy of the book 'Salthouse:  The story of a Norfolk village' on www.amazon.com/uk  I am enjoying it very much!   
Thank you, Sharon.

I have given Sharon the address of Roy Purdy , but as it is 5 years old it may not work!
on August 10th Brian Purdy has spotted this letter and sent his changed email address- jolly good

From: Harmer, Peter To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:34 AMSubject: Email on your website from Kerrie Jurd [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Hi Val, Calling by your website today I see a Kerrie Jurd has enquired about a Francis Henry Harmer. He was the brother of my great great grandfather Elias so there is a link. If you like you are welcome to pass on my details to Kerrie if she wants to make contact to share info. Kind Regards 
Thanks Peter - just what I wanted! I've put you in touch with each other! - Val
Peter Harmer
Melton, Victoria, Australia
From: Kerrie Jurd To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:10 PMSubject: harmer.
Hi,I am not sure if your Francis Henry Harmer is the same l am looking for. He married Ellen Alice Barrett. Kathleen Leila Harmer is their daughter. Kathleen is my great grandmother. I know kathleen married Sydney james Pickering in Maggea south Australia. Can you help.
Thankyou Kerrie.
From: Ruth Meates To: Val Fiddian Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:38 AMSubject: Salthouse Highs
Hi Val, Thank you so much for your email and the links to so much information.  As I see it the William High* to whom you refer died in 1894 aged 3.  However, I think that our grandfather William David was the son of Ellen High who in the 1901 census was 56 and  apparently was born in Finchley!  William is not mentioned in the census for Salthouse because by this time he was living in Shoreditch married to Minnie Earl Wick.  Also mentioned in the 1901 entry is a son Charles age 19 and daughter Ellen age 13.  This sounds about right especially as the son Charles was born in Cley (Ellen was born in Holt).  Also, of the eight children born to William and Minnie, The names Charles, Ellen and William occur.  William David is proving to be rather elusive but according to records he and Minnie were married in the last quarter of 1900 and their first child Charles was born in the second quarter of 1901.  My father (James Edward) was the youngest, born 1919 in one of the cottages in the Town Yard in Cley - probably the one called Billy High's.  The family then moved to either Little Knoll and Church Knoll before returning to London around 1927. The interesting thing is that in 1901 Ellen and two of her children were living in 23 Church Lane, Salthouse and as Charles was 19 and still at home (apparently) I think it highly probable that William David (our grandfather) was another son and had already left home. I would very much like to purchase a copy of the book - how do I go about doing this? Once again many, many thanks and no doubt we will be in touch again as I find out more about our branch of the Highs. Kind regards 
Ruth (nee High)
From: Annette Blundred To: Val Fiddian Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:59 PMSubject: The Jarvis Family
Hello Val I came across your website last night.  What a find!   I was planning to visit Salthouse to get a feel of my family history so was doing some prior research. My late father came to visit many years ago but this was pre internet !  The information is now very accessible and I am thrilled to find out and see so much.   I am a great great grandaughter of John Dewing Jarvis and Sarah Ann Perfrement.  Their son Edward married Catherine Norman in South Shields on 5th July 1873.  I have their original marriage certificate which states that Edward was a Blacksmith at that time. They later lived in Hull and they had 9 children: Robert (Bob), Euphoebia (Phoebe), Edward (Ted),  David, Catherine (Kate), Georgina Rebecca (Becca,)  Ada,  Norman and Ellen.  I can remember the six youngest ones.   I knew some of the next generation - those who remained in Yorkshire  - (  I believe that there are two surviving ), and I am in touch with some of their children. I will let them know about the site. My grandmother was Ada Alice - the seventh child.  Her older brother David and his wife Cis emigrated to Canada. When they came back to visit there were lots of family celebrations but I know nothing else.   I am excited to think that Daniel and Deborah Jarvis are relatives in Ontario.   It would be great to hear from them or any one else who can add pieces to the Jarvis puzzle.  I note that there is already one family tree.   I will put what I know into a similar format and send it to you as soon as I can.  Very many thanks for all your enterprising work. Annette Blundred
nee Marshall daughter of Edith Meggitt and grandaughter of Ada Jarvis
Hello to you Annette, That is very exciting, I will put your letter 'up' on the messages page and hope that lots of your relations will get in touch with you!If you type 'Jarvis' into the 'search' in your browser while on the Salthouse messages page (and subsequent similar pages - you will find the links to those, at the foot of the current one I think) You will surely be taken to several past letters from Jarvis researchers and family members! see: Jarvis-John Dewing.htm for pictures sent by Janine Cole

Yes please do send me all your information, I would be very interested to see it!

Val

From: colin woodcock To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:13 PMSubject: lewis
Dear Val, I sent you a message many years ago regarding the Samuel Allen who married Elizabeth Lewis, I have a whole folder of research about 'lewis' family and was thrilled to see the Neil Lewis message regarding my Great Grandmother Elizabeth Lewis. I would like to get in touch with Neil as I have lots of information that I am sure he would be interested in.

Many thanks
Anne Woodcock

I'm sending Anne, Neil's email address (see his letter below (next but one))! Val
From: FRANCIS BURROWS
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:24 PM
Subject: HMS Princess Victoria

Dear Mrs Fiddian     My name is Francis James Burrows I am half brother to James William Burrows who is buried in the centre grave of the three near the field wall in your beautiful church yard.I found your website by accident and think it is great. I have visited Salthouse about four times to visit the grave. The first time we came we were made most welcome by everyone especially Dorothy Thomson and we were most upset to learn of her passing.I would be most gratefull if you could put me intouch with anyone else with an interest in HMS Pricess Victoria as I am looking for any info I can find.                          Many thanks
                                    F J Burrows
From: Neil B Lewis To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 11:36 AMSubject: Lewis family
Dear Mrs Fiddian I am looking at the history of Lewis family. I was surprised, and very pleased, to see the work by Jackie Harris which is also my family history.  I am directly related to Herbert (Fenn) Lewis born 16th August 1860 in Salthouse. He moved to Melton Constable and worked on Lord Hastings's Estate as a plumber. He had 4 sons and one daughter, one of which is my great grandfather Herbert Boyer Lewis. It is only by chance that I moved to Norwich two years ago and have only just found out that my past family lived in Norfolk all those years ago.  I am now interested in finding out if there are more of the family prior to Charles Lewis (died 9/10/1834). I have noted references to a Fenn Lewis marrying Frances King in 12/1/1768 and an Edmund Lewis who would have been born in 1689 and died on 25/3/1740.Hopefully I will visit Salthouse sometime next week to have a look at the village. I would also like to compliment you on this web site. It is very informative and provides a wonderful social history of the village, the people and their lives.
Kind regards,
Neil B Lewis 
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Lewis family
Dear Val
Thank you for the quick reply. I am happy for my email to go on the message board. If I could get in touch with Jackie Harris, it would be interesting to see where her side of the family ended up. The part of the Lewis family that moved from Salthouse to Melton Constable were effected by the 1st World War. Two of the 4 brothers ended up in London just prior to WW1 and stayed on their return. One died as a result of gassing but I have not located his final resting place in the UK. Susan Lewis was born in 1842, the daughter of Fenn Lewis and Ann Barnes. She had a daughter, Elizabeth Lewis in 1865. According to the 1881 Census she was a General Domestic Servant to David Proudfoot (an 84 year old gardener) living in Cross Street. She was still unmarried and her daughter was working as a domestic servant (aged 17 yrs) in Cley Road.  Kind regards  
Neil Lewis.

From: Elizabeth Humphries
To:
Val Fiddian
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: Your enquiry about the Old Bakery Annexe

Dear Val,
I am interested in the marks in the centre arch of the North aisle of Salthouse church. There are two deep gauges which look like deep friction marks.
During the period I was invigilating my exhibition in August 2008, a family of local people visited and the father informed me quite firmly that it was a typical 'Wool Church'.  Later in the week a Suffolk family visited and exclaimed instantly "It's a 'wool Church', you can tell by the height, just like the churches in Suffolk"
I can't help now but to see the two deep gauges in the arch as score lines caused by constant friction in the stone - I noticed them early on in my visits to the church - I didn't ever see them as architectural in nature. To me they look erosive - I would love to know more -

Yours


Elizabeth (Liz) Humphries
PS I have seen engravings of churches used as Merchant houses full of work, labour, Goods etc etc. a veritable centre of action and Market Place (with services too of course). I wonder if the marks are rope (or iron cable)?  It was a merchant port!!??


Dear Liz, here's a helpful summary of the meaning of the term 'Wool Church', which means paid for by the profits from wool. It seems doubtful that such splendid churches could have been built as wharehouses to store the wool. I believe the marks on the pillars and arches in the church are from great placards and monuments belonging to Chantry Chapels.

The most notable parish churches of the late medieval period are the so called "wool churches" common to the Cotswolds and East Anglia. These are churches endowed by the newly rich class of local merchants thriving on England's wool trade.Many of these magnificent buildings, such as Thirsk (Yorkshire), Northleach (Gloucestershire), and Lavenham (Suffolk), are like mini-cathedrals, complete with fanciful carvings, elaborate ornamentation and funereal monuments inside the church.The Tudor era saw one important change; it was under the influence of Elizabeth I that preaching long sermons became popular. And by long, I mean loonnnnng - 2 to 4 hours was not uncommon. This meant that the victims, ... er ...church attendees, needed to sit to listen, so pews became standard in the naves. The preacher needed a lectern, and more often, a pulpit. So the pulpit was added to the nave also. Most of the pulpits you see in parish churches today date from the Tudor period, or later.

 

From:Stephen ShipleySent: 23 January, 2009

Dear Val,

It's with great sadness that I have to write and tell you that my Auntie Doreen Reeve, nee High (daughter of Charles Edward High), passed away on 1st Jan '09 in hospital peacefully after a stroke aged 86 years.
She took great pleasure in her father being included in the Salthouse book, and in attending the launch of the book at the Dun Cow a few years ago. Similarly, viewing the fascinating High family tree in Salthouse church where her father Charles was a choirboy, also gave her and ourselves an insight into the roots of our past..

Her sister Kathleen Margery Shipley (nee High) my mother, now 93 years succeeds her and is herself getting rather frail, and we are doing our best to support her at this sad time.

Well I must close now and wish you Val, and all associated with Salthouse, all good wishes for 2009

Yours sincerely
Stephen Shipley


I was so sorry to hear this news of Doreen Reeves' death. Her father was a wonderful Salthouse ancestor. His story and many pictures, including one of Stephen's mother and her sister Doreen, can be seen on a page devoted to Charles Edward High.
click here to see it,
and here for a section of the High family tree where Doreen and her father can be seen, (as it appeared in the church for the exhibition in 2007).



From: Kenneth Thrasher To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:48 AMSubject: Salthouse site
Dear Val:  I discovered the Salthouse website by accident and am fascinated by the history of your village.  I said to my wife "these people really know how to put a website together!"  That was before I had viewed the half of it. I have no connection to Salthouse.  But I was stationed at RAF Station Sculthorpe from 1955 to 1958 but had no awareness of your village.  I preached at Methodist chapels on the Hunstanton circuit of the Methodist church for those three years.  Since I depended on others for transportation in those days, I could not explore your area as I wish I had. I enjoyed the history immensely and will be visiting your site often. 
Kenneth L. Thrasher, North Carolina USA

Dear Kenneth, I tried to thank you for this high praise (I am only one person and very nearly 80 and it is all my own work), but your email address wouldn't receive it, so I'm putting my thanks here!!
Val

From; Jeffrey Hunt
Sent:
Friday, January 16, 2009 6:08 AM
Subject: Josephine Stratton nee Holman

Hello Val.
I am trying to trace Josephine Mary Stratton nee Holman who I knew back in the late fifties/early sixties. She was born in Salthouse early in 1941 I believe and lived there until her marriage to George Henry John Stratton in March 1963. I notice from your very interesting website that she visited Salthouse in 1904 and wrote to you via the website in November of that year.Going through your website brought back many happy memories of my time in North Norfolk back in the late fifties. I am now a retired British Airways Captain and have given myself a project of finding some old friends. I was wondering therefore if you knew of Josie's whereabouts now, or know of somebody in Salthouse who does.

Congratulations on a great website and keep up the good work

Regards from Capt. J.M. Hunt
If you can help Jeffrey to locate Josie Stratton, please contact him direct: jeffreymartin@fsmail.net
From: Ian Gotts To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:35 PM
Subject: Salthouse Website

Hi Val Just a note to say how much I have enjoyed browsing your pages over the past few days. Your village has always been one of our favourite spots on that wonderful coast road. Quite apart from enjoying walks across the marshes and, not least, lunches in the Dun Cow, I'm also interested in the area from a genealogical point of view and was quite excited to find mention of two children baptised in Salthouse to a Richard GOTT(S): the superbly named ffreDeswyde in 1545 and Joane in 1549. Unfortunately, the mother isn't given. Later, we have a William GOTTS having three hearths taxed in 1666 - unlikely, I would think, to be the William (?) GOTT baptised in 1650 to James (?) and Elisabeth GOTT, whose record I found on the free Census site but not among your details. I really must try and get hold of a copy of "The Buried Records" CD that you mention. I don't suppose the village history book is still available? Meanwhile, I would be pleased to make contact with anyone else who happens to be researching the name GOTTS - or, better still, who can throw any light on the Salthouse GOTTS mentioned above. Congratulations on an excellent site! 

Best wishes.

Ian Gotts

Hi Ian, Thank you so much for all this most interesting news!  I can send you a copy of the Buried Records CD which I and a friend put together. Meanwhile I'll have a look to see if GOTTS appear on it. The 16th-century births you mention must have come from the few recorded by Commander Stagg when, in the 1930s, he had access to the earliest Parish Register before it was damaged by being buried! I'll do that right away.The CD costs £10 plus 50p for postage . Unfortunately the Salthouse book was sold out within a year of its production, and there are no plans at the moment for a 2nd edition.Kind regards 
Val

This is all I could find on what is left of the early Register (all baptisms)

ffreDeswyde the daughter of Richards Gotts the viith of S[eptember] 1545 (wonderful name!)Joane the daughter of Richarde Gotts the xxvith of Januarie 1549
[...]liam the Sonne of [James] Gott and Elizabeth his wife baptised the 2d of August 1650.

William is there - baptised in Salthouse and surely the hearth taxed William must be a relation !
If you would like to see those original pages they are well shown on the disk with the transcription beside each page.

From: Carolyn Leonard
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.ukSent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 4:09 AM
Subject: Salthouse, North Norfolk, UK history

Dear Val Fiddian,
Stumbled on your website tonight and had a delightful Christmas Eve journeying around it.  I am particularly interested in this part of the Salthouse ancient History by Commander F. N. Stagg R.N.:

"We know that in 1240 Sir Peter Braunche, son of Richard Braunche of Gresham, conveyed all his estate in Kelling and Salthouse to the Prior of Binham for twenty-five marks (except a parcel of land which he gave to Salthouse Church). This grant was confirmed by Sir Nicholas Braunche in a deed of 1321, and the manor then became known as Binham Priory Manor, and was held by the Priory until John Heydon acquired it, either by purchase or exchange, in about 1470.

The family of Braunche of North Barsham drifted away to Somerset in 1314 leaving a junior branch in Norfolk, one of whom, Richard Braunche, was Mayor of Lynn in 1349 and has been immortalised by the ‘peacock brass’ in the church there. .......... During the reign of Henry III (1216-1272) one William, son of Sir Thomas de Weybourne, gave lands in Kelling and Salthouse, with Grenberew (Gramborough) Windmill, for the souls of Alice his wife and Aldreda his mother."

I am a genealogist for my family BRANCH in America, and found this story particularly interesting because of the mention of Sir Thomas Weybourne along with Sir Peter Braunche.  My earliest proven ancestor is: 


Peter BRANCH of Halden (baptised 1596 Rolvendon, son of Simon/Symon Branch and Alice Stokes) died on the voyage to New England in the ship CASTLE  in 1638, and by his will dated 16 June 1638 bound his son John to Thomas Wyborne for eleven years, probably until he came of age which would make him born about 1628. This John was of Marshfield, married Mary Speed, by whom he had issue, and died 17 Aug 1711. The Branches in England seem to have been of nomadic habits. The father, Symon, died in Tenterden, though there is no other mention of the family in the registers. Peter lived in Nettlestead, Frittenden, Biddenden and Halden, and his sister was in service in Hothfield. 
Then there is this other legend:
“Peter de Branche (knight) born unknown, who came with William the Conqueror in 1068 - held Gresham & Aylmorton Norfolk County by the service of two fees from Earl Warrenne and 1241 had a writ of summons to pass into France and had a grant of market, fair and free warren. He married and had issue.” His two sons take separate surnames. They both keep the same coat of arms but Nicolas continues the Branche line and other, Roger, takes the place name of Gresham.
Wondering if you might have any further information on either Sir Peter Braunche descendants, or on Thomas Weybourne descendants?
Sincerely,
Carolyn (in Oklahoma USA)Best wishes,
Check my updated Web page www.CarolynBLeonard.com (Don't forget the B!)

From: Eve Monement To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:33 AM

Dear Val

 Congratulations on creating a wonderful site and allowing people from all over the world to be the beneficiaries of your good work.   Well, my name is Eve Monement and I live in Australia.  I have family connections to the Norfolk Coast through the Bolding’s and Monement’s of Weybourne, and also through the Johnson’s of Salthouse.  I believe my connection comes directly down from the 1792 marriage of Hannah Johnson (of the Manor House) and William Monement.  Your website tells me that Hannah’s sister Esther married William John Jennis Bolding.   I would certainly appreciate making contact with anyone who is also connected through the Johnson, Bolding or Monement families. 

 Warm Regards,

Eve Monement

From: ROY JENKINS To: VAL FIDDIAN Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:31 PM
Subject: STILL SEARCHING

Hi ValIts sometime now since we corresponded, do you remember me Roy Jenkins, I was and still am trying to find the whereabouts of Richard Ashton who was brought up in Salthouse at the Dun Cow. He will be the same age as me about 60 now and went in the army on leaving school, his parents continued with the pub till shortly after the tragic death of his sister Caroline. Any local 60 year old still living in the village must remember him from school and the pub, I know what its like because I am from a small village also and if you want to know anything its just a matter of finding the right local resident and you are halfway there.So please Val if you do come across any youthfull 60 year olds could you perhaps mention it to them I would be most grateful. Kind Regards
Roy Jenkins
From: Sandra Pendlington Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:22 PM
Subject: the Holman family of Salthouse

Hello I'm researching the Holman family for our Holman cousins in British Columbia.  Matthew Holman, the son of William Holman and Mary Morter of Thursford, was the younger brother of Isaac and Brandon Holman. William and Mary died in 1846 within 3 days of each other - 7 & 4  February. Their extensive family was scattered. Some remained in Thursford but others came to Salthouse. Matthew (1832 - 1909) married Hannah Sarah Ann Pegg of Salthouse who was the daughter of  Francis Barnaby Pegg (born Sheringham 1801 died South Shields 1875) and Mary Ann Cubitt (born Salthouse 1810 died 1894 South Shields). They married in Salthouse in 1835. Mary Ann was the daughter of William Cubitt (1787 - 1863) and Mary High (1790 - 1871 mar 1810). Matthew and Hannah 'emigrated' to South Shields with the Pegg family about 1859.  They had lots of children including Henry John Holman (b 1860 d 1919 m 1890). Henry John grew up in Shields and became a marine engineer. He married Mabel Wray. Mabel was my husbands great aunt. Her sister Mary married Joseph Pendlington and he and Henry John both had the wunderlust and became friends. The two men went to Vancouver Island in 1910. Henry John stayed and was joined by his family in 1913. Joseph tried but failed to get Mary to go and eventually returned to Shields in 1915.  Henry John and Mabel have numerous descendents in BC. I've found your site fascinating and could probably add to the Holman family tree if you would like me to send the information I have - although I am gathering it all the time.  Best wishes  
Sandra Pendlington

From: STEVE BENSON To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:48 AM
Subject: james olley

Dear ValYou will have seen the furore raised by articles in Guardian, Mail, Express, and (with beautiful photo!!) Telegraph in the last few days about the sale of Olley's signed memoir of the Charge of the Light Brigade. Richard Batson wrote a good piece in the EDP too - with a little help from his friends.I am wondering if the resurrection of interest might bring more memories from the good folk of North Norfolk? I have found at least one new contact in Holt. Anything more from Salthouse, I wonder? And Blakeney wherehe lived in the High Street (Alma Cottage)? One of Olley's daughters married a long serving lifeboatman there called William Baines.What I hope for are more memories, photos, documents etc to add another postscript to the life of a  remarkable Norfolk hero.Incidentally the price raised at Mullocks Auctioneers Sale in Ludlow on Thursday (6th November) was £4,500 against a top estimate of £2,500!All best wishesSteve 

Please use any of this on your excellent Salthouse History website or adapt as you think fit. I'm quite happy for you to pass on my e-mail to an interested party.

See the article in the Guardian and in the Express
From: Jean Marshall To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: family history

Hi Val,
its a long time since I was in touch with you,you may not remember me.
 My husbands ancestors were the Moys there is a picture of his Gt Grand mother and 2 of his Uncles on your site.
1 year ago we moved away from Essex to Worcestershire.Our Eldest daughter who lives in France now has all my files on the family history,who will sometime carry on where I left off.
I often have a look on your site,to see if there are any more Bullens etc most went North in the 18oo's
You do a good job,
regards Jean Marshall

From: Wendy AustinTo: Val Fiddian Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:48 PM
Subject: Christiana High & Charles Kendle

Dear Val

- hope you're very well. I was having another look at the Salthouse website this evening & I noticed a mailing from Julia Pitcher. She wrote to you on 26th Sept 2006 regarding Christiana High. Well Christiana High & Charles Kendle are also MY great grandparents! Ada Sarah Kendle is my grandmother. I would love to get in touch with Julia if you're still in contact with her Val??

By the way, we visited the Salthouse art exhibition this summer - fabulous :-) It was good to be back in Salthouse!

Very best wishes,

Wendy

Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Christiana High & Charles Kendle

that's great Val - thank you! I can't believe I've missed seeing Julie's e-mail before. Anyway, I've sent her an e-mail now & as it hasn't bounced back - I MAY be in luck!

Thanks again - I'll keep you posted!

to see Julies letter click here:

Wendy

Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:01 PMSubject: Re: Christiana High & Charles Kendle

Dear Val - I'm delighted to tell you that contact with Julie has been successfully made! Thank you for your help. If we discover extra bits relevant to Salthouse history as a result of this contact  I'll let you know!!

Best wishes,

Wendy

Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: Christiana High & Charles Kendle

You'll never guess what Val - Julie's son is engaged to be married to a girl from our village!!

How's that for a co-incidence?!

I think we'll be able to meet up & share some stories & photo's quite easily at some stage with that commonality!!

Julie didn't realise that any of her father's cousins would still be alive so I've been able to tell her that my dad is & he is in touch with two more cousins in Norfolk. Julie said she regrets not finding out more about the family from her father when he was alive, so hopefully my dad will be able to fill her in.

Thanks again Val.

Best wishes,

Wendy

From: Lyn Morgan To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:55 PM 
Subject:
The Holman Family
Hello Val
I'm a descendant of Bessie Holman and have noticed a couple of discrepancies in the history you show of the Holman family.
Bessie Holman had two brothers (Frank and Reggie) and two sisters (Mabel and Julia). Bessie's father was William Matthew Holman born 24th September 1864 and was buried in Salthouse on 6th November 1923 aged 59. Her mother was Hannah Maria Holman (nee Beavis) born 7th June 1862 and buried in Salthouse on 21st January 1947. Hannah Maria was knocked over by soldiers playing football and she broke her hip and never made a full recovery, eventually this resulted in her death. She married William on 4th December 1886 in the Salthouse church.
William Matthew was the son of Isaac Holman and Ann Holman (nee Ives). Isaac was buried on 13th April 1918 aged 83 and Ann Holman was buried 5th August 1903 aged 66 both at Salthouse.
I would love to meet any relatives of Reggie, Frank, Mabel or Julia, if you know any of them please ask if they would like to meet me. I now live in High Kelling having moved here from Bushey in Hertfordshire. My mother was Edna Hardingham from Sheringham, daughter of Bessie Holman.
I would love to here from any of you.
Kind regards
Lyn Morgan

Many thanks Lyn for the information I'm always grateful to be put right where there is any misrepresentation! But in this case I couldn't see anything wrong with my Holman Tree: http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/tree-holman.pdf

From: Judith Willis To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: Death at sea 1875 Salthouse Norfolk

Dear Val
 
I have just come across my great great grandfather's death 19 / 20 November 1875.  His name was Thomas Wilton and he was on the Brig Elizabeth and the Brig went down in a bad storm.
 
I wondered if you could help me with details of who to contact to find out more details of the tragic event.
 
Regards
 
Judith

Dear Judith, I'm just bogged down in things to do at the moment but I'll get back to you on this. Are you sure the Brig went down at Salthouse?

Kind regards
Val

From: Judith Willis To: Val Fiddian Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: Death at sea 1875 Salthouse Norfolk

Dear Val
 
Thank you for getting back to me regarding Brig Elizabeth.  
I have a newspaper cutting from the Whitby Gazette dated 27 November 1875
 
'November 20th, drowned with four others from the brig Elizabeth, of this port at Salthouse, Norfolk, Mr. Thomas Wilton, of this town, aged 37 years.'
 
I also attach a copy cutting from the Whitby and Its shipping by Richard Weatherill showing.
 
And a copy document showing some Sailing Vessels Owned / Partly Owned / Managed by the Turnbull Family.  which shows the details of the Brig Elizabth (3 from bottom).
 
I have taken this as true as it is the only info I have.
 
I look forward to hearing from you and hope you can help with advise to where to look.
 
regards, Judith Willis
TO SEE THESE Click here and here Can anyone help with how Judith might find out more?

From: Frank Cowlin To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:15 PM
Subject: Coastguard in 1900-1902 ish

Dear ValWe visited Salthouse this summer and stopped at the pub near the village green.  We made some enquiries about where the coastguard station may have been as my grandfather was the Coastguard in Salthouse in 1900 – 1902.  We found him on your site records with the surname Toyer ? but the name is in fact Tozer.  We had searched the 1901 Census for the family Tozer but without any success until we found your site.   When we searched under the name TOYER we found the family in Holt Road,, Salthouse.Alice Myra Tozer also shows in the Baptism records on your site (8 June 1902 entries 501 and 502) as being baptised in 1902 with her brother George Frederick John Tozer.  Aunt Myra as I knew her died in 1997.  The family group is as follows:Front Row L to R: Alice Tozer with Charles Henry Tozer on lap, Ethel Louisa Kate Tozer, George Frederick John Tozer, Hannah Tozer (sister of George Tozer)Back Row L to R:  George Tozer, Dorothy Tozer, Alice Myra Tozer.I am not sure whether any of this would be of interest in the the Family Groups you have on the website.

On the 1901 Census the Tozers are shown as living in Holt Road, Salthouse which must be close to Ivy Hall and perhaps intersected Cley Road.  I wonder if you might know whether this road still exists and if not what happened to it.  I also wonder if you might know where the Coastguard Station was in those days and whether it has now gone.

Dear Sue and Frank,
Thank you so much for your so interesting letter with good information and pictures. Here is the oldest picture of the post office (the building on the right) which I am told by oldest residents was the coast-guard station before it was made into the postoffice in 1908.

The Holt road on the census, is the road to Holt, now named Purdey Street at its lowest end near the village green, and Bard Hill at its further point where it mounts the hill.

 
George Tozer Salthousr Coastguard
Click here to see the pictures Frank and Sue attached
 

You will notice that George was shown as being
assigned to HMS Hull when he was based in Salthouse.If you have any further information it would be gratefully received.Kind Regards

Sue and Frank Cowlin

From: Daniel Jarvis To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:23 AM
Subject: John Dewing Jarvis...

Val, The Salthouse website is a treasure! Thanks for your efforts. My sister had corresponded with you a few years ago, probably asking the same questions but I've run into a bit of a dead end. I noticed that on one page (http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/alpha.html#J), you reference information about John Dewing Jarvis' siblings and parents from Aylsham. Do you still have that information? Thank you for the help and thanks again for the great website. Daniel David Jarvis
b Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Hello Daniel,  Thank you so much for the kind things you say about the website!  I don't think I ever had any information about the Aylsham Jarvises beyond the reference to John Dewing Jarvis' birthplace at the link you sent me. That information was provided by Margaret Pope. Another Jarvis relation is Alison Jarvis but perhaps she is your sister and you know her already!!  Sorry not to have been much help!
Val (email addresses sent but not repeated here!)
From: Bernadine Brewer To: Val Fiddian Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:39 AMSubject: Archive Film Screening - Heritage Open Day
Dear Val 
I hope you're well. You may remember I was in touch with you before. I know that you have a personal interest in local history, so I thought I would let you know about a free screening that the East Anglian Film Archive are running as part of the Heritage Open Day events. The screening is of the film "Norfolk Past: The County Our Parents Knew" - telling the story of how life and places in Norfolk have changed over the years, through a collection of rare archive film. The screening takes place at 4.15pm on Saturday 13th September at Cinema City, St Andrew's Street, Norwich. Tickets for the screening are free, but do need to be reserved in advance. To reserve seats, call Cinema City on 0871 704 2053 or book online at www.picturehouses.co.uk or visit their box office.  With best wishes
Bernadine 
Bernadine Brewer
Marketing Officer
Independent Studios UK
Henderson Business Centre
Ivy Road
Norwich NR5 8BF
Tel: 01603 251732 
Anglia TV's popular series 'Bygones' is now available to buy on DVD. Visit us online at www.archivefilmshop.co.uk
click here to see the latest correspondence from Nils Solberg with a photo of the fob watch made by Johnson Jex
From: Jenny Adams To: Val Fiddian Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:25 PMSubject: Salthouse Children who went to Greshams School

Hi Val I hope you are well and enjoying our "wonderful" summer!! Pity it's going to start tomorrow! I have been having a clear out and general tidy up of my family research bookcase and came across a volume I purchased several years ago re Greshams School. Its the History and Register of the school c1555-1955 and though I've looked through it many a time re my Dack's and Bunn's etc I had never really delved into it.

Over the weekend I decided to change that and started to read the lists and came across several enteries for the surname Dawney - which rang bells re the Salthouse Register's.1. John Dawney born c1620 son of Thomas Dawney, Rector of Salthouse, John Dawney went on to Caius College in Cambridge 2. John Dawney born c1651 son of Edward Dawney, Rector of Salthouse, John Dawney went on to Caius College in Cambridge - B.A 1671, Rector of Roydon 1675-1704, Rector of Caston 1691-1704.
The information re Caius College etc is from their own records 1555-1729, then the Registers from the School provide the information 1729 onwards.Obviously I am unsure re copyright procedures(there is nothing in the book re copyright), hence why I haven't emailed you via the website, but if any one wants me to check to see if their male relative is mentioned I am more than willing to have a look, some names that feature in your A-Z of Salthouse names are listed in the index (Barsted, Cooke, Cubitt, Dawson, Girdlestone (entries from 1729-1766), Harmer).Thank you for putting me in touch with John Christie from NZ, a "cousin" via the first marriage of Matthew Twite Dack, I have now put him in touch with another "cousin" from the first family who lives in the States (she originally found the info on John's grandmother) so we have come full circle.Hope to hear from you soonJenny

 

From: Bob MaddocksTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: Brilliant website

Val,Just visited your website via another one on the Girdlestone family - both are just about the best genealogical / historical sites I have come across on the web. I am doing some research on distinguished residents in Penkridge, Staffordshire. Henry Girdlestone was rector there in 1861-3 ish and for a time William Theophilus was doctor there. A Henry Girdlestone born in Penkridge in 1863 went on to do great things in Australia. Your site seems to be the only one on the web that has any biographical detail on William and I am very grateful. Can you think of any reason why he is so difficult to find in the censuses ? Yours, gratefully,
Bob Maddocks
From: Joan Woodward To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:29 PM
Subject: Kerrison family in Cley - 1800's

Hello Val ... 
On browsing thru' the websites found yours with such a volume of information.  It's so good to see how much has been passed onto to those making enquiries, and what quality too.  I'm amazed at the Girdlestone info, we have them in our family tree too, and there is so much detail to be had on various websites, which my Cousin has found and made contact with over the past year. He is the owner of our family tree. I will be letting him know of your website too.  The reason I write is I'm trying to trace the Kerrison family of Cley - in particular Hannah Kerrison b. 1823-25 in Cley, and married my ancestor Joseph Priest in Walsingham in 1849. They were living in Wells-next-the-sea where he worked on the Brig 'Lydia' from Great Yarmouth.  I couldn't find Hannah on the 1841 census with any family - but one or two Hannahs were shown but didn't seem to tie up with my info.   Is there anyone out there who might be able to throw some light on the details please.  I visited Wells, Cley and all surrounding villages in March this year for the first time, and was really thrilled to be in the areas where my families were originally from.  These being mainly the Boom and Priest cnnections.   Hopefully will hear from some kind person out there.    Sincere regards  ......... 
Joan Woodward
Hello Joan, Many thanks for all your kind appreciation of my website! I'll put your letter 'up' on the messages page, and hope that you may have some luck. I won't put your address 'live' unless you want me to. Anwers will come to me anyway.
It's possible the 'Blakeney Area History Society' might be able to help - they have a wealth of information and are not confined to one village like I mostly am.

         Here is the address for their website from Google:

BAHS Blakeney Area Historical Society. ... The Society was established in 1990 as the 'Blakeney History Group' but changed it's name later to reflect the wider (etc) ..
www.history-blakeney-area.org.uk/

From: Jenny Watts - NRO To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: Kelling parish register, 1730-1818

Hello Val,

Hope you are keeping well and enjoying the summer, at least when the weather has been fine!

I thought you would like to know that digital images of the Kelling register, 1730-1818 (PD 647/2) are now available in the searchroom on computer and as hard copies. We will also be microfilming the register. Antoinette was only able to carry out limited cleaning because of the instability of the inks, but the images have come out quite well. The bottom right hand areas of the pages are missing, however, so quite a lot of entries are incomplete or do not survive.

The first Kelling register is unfortunately in too poor a condition to try to copy it or carry out any conservation treatment. Only one triangular area has survived and the pages are welded together. Perhaps as conservation treatments develop in the future, though, it may be possible to work on the volume and produce some copies for access. It looks like we have come to the end of the Salthouse/Kelling project for now, anyway. It's been a great experience and certainly something of a trail blazer. We have now had approaches from several local history groups about photographing registers. Terry Burchell has been back to photograph the registers of his own village, Mulbarton, on behalf of the Heritage Group there, and we now have some excellent digital images available in the searchroom. I expect that more groups will follow with similar projects, but I will always remember Salthouse as being our first digitised register and a very special project.

From:Ann WardTo: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:02 AM

Subject: Umgeni and UmtataHello Val,
you may remember my earlier e-mail to you, 9th Nov.2004 ! , ref. Onesiphorous Randall which, presumably, was the one referred to by Lorna Beckett in her e-mail to you dated 8th May 2008.
My father was born at 'Umgeni', Cley-next-the-Sea, and I would like to fill in some
details for her about the house etc.
Could you please forward her e-mail address to me at your earliest
convenience?

Many thanks,
Ann Ward.

 

I forwarded the email, and Ann sent me a copy of her message to Lorna
with all the information she could want!


From:Ann Ward
To: Lorna Beckett
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:59 AMSubject: Umgeni and Umtata

Hello Lorna,

I have just been updating on the latest additions to the message board of Val's Salthouse website and came across your entry ref: 'Umgeni' and 'Umtata'. I presume the old message you referred to was the one I sent to Val 9th November 2004.

Did you manage to locate 'Umgeni' which is undergoing considerable restoration by the present owner? The two adjoining cottages, now converted into a single occupancy, were
originally named 'Umvoti' and 'Umtata'. To the right of 'Umgeni' is another property called 'Umona'.

Captain James Randall was the paternal grandfather of my father Everard Robert James Randall, (who was born in 'Umgeni') but it was his maternal grandfather, Captain Robert William Lewis, who lived at 'Umgeni'. He was a Master Mariner with the Natal Line of steamers sailing between London and Port Natal in South Africa. The fleet of twelve steamships were all named after towns, villages, rivers etc in South Africa and Rhodesia and included the names of the four houses referred to above.

When my grandfather, Everard James Randall, moved from Norfolk to Derbyshire he named his new bungalow 'Umgeni' !

best wishes,

Ann Ward

From: Antony Ball Sent: Tuesday,
Sent: June 03, 2008 10:34 AM

Subject: Herbert Wall

Hi Val
First of all congratulations on the website, fantastic.
I am researching a soldier that was killed in ww1, Pte. Herbert Wall and have managed to trace information on mainly his wife Hannah Sarah May Wall nee Dew from your glorious website.But I can't find much on the website about the war memorial in the churchyard or anything concerning the men inscribed on it. Is their a plaque in the church commemorating the men, or is their more in the Salthouse book, which unfortunatley is like gold dust to get hold of one. I would like to find more about the couple and would very much like to find a picture of Herbert, who was born and lived at Cley.
Anything more about the couple or in particular about Herbert would be of great value and use to my research, and would be very grateful, also is their any possibility of a reprint of the book.
Best Regards
Antony Ball.

Sadly, No second edition is planned at the moment. I'll announce it loud and clear on the website if it does happen -Val
From: Nils SolbergTo: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:30 PM

Subject: Johnson Jex
Dear Val,

I was doing some research into Johnson Jex, "The Learned Blacksmith of Letheringsett", and it brought me to your site. I see you had a Johnson Family in the Manor House who gave issue to a Johnson Jex in 1778.
I understood that he was born in Billingford in or around that year but it seems a bit odd that a humble blacksmith would come from a relatively posh background. Is this the same Johnson Jex, do you know?

I've attached a lecture that my Great Great Grandfather gave about him in 1852. Maybe it will be of some interest to you. According to that his grandmother lived in Cley so there are obviously connections there.

Kind Regards,

Nils Solberg

p.s. Are you the Val Fiddian who is the mother of Sue and Dick? We used to
be great mates but I've lost contact since I moved down to Sussex. If so,
send them my regards.


Dear Nils - Yes I am the mother of Sue and Dick -I will remember you to them!
I guess it's very likely that Johnson Jex the Blacksmith is the same one born to Christian Johnson who married William Jex in 1773. I'm hoping Richard Jefferson of Cley may know.

To read Nils' Great Great Grandfather W. H. Cozens-Hardy's Lecture on Johnson Jex: CLICK HERE

Nils said: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: Johnson Jex
Dear Val,


I heard from Richard this morning and have just replied. He had a huge
amount of information, which I am currently trying to fit together. Many
thanks for putting me on to him.

I forgot to mention that I have this letter (attached) written by Jex in

1821 (click to see it). I'd be delighted to share the lecture with anyone who may be interested.
I transribed it word-for-word from the original printed copy, but I haven't got the foggiest idea if there are any more originals floating around. And feel free to post my message.
As a postscript I have a fob watch made by Jex which my Grandfather left me.

From: Nils SolbergTo: <salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:28 PM
Subject: Johnson Jex again

Hi Val,

While on a lightning visit to Norwich last week I took these photos of my
Johnson Jex watch that I mentioned in my ramblings, you may want to post
them up with the messages...?
Hope you are well.

Regards,

Nils

Thanks Nils for this photo of the watch! -
Val


 
From: Lorna Beckett To: Val Fiddian Sent:Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:36 AM
Subject: Umgeni and Umtata in Cley


Hello Val,

  I have just been reading with great interest some of the past messages on your Salthouse website. The way I came upon your website was that I was searching for any references to a house in Cley called Umgeni and the cottage next to this called Umtata as the famous war poet Rupert Brooke was staying at the latter when WW1 was declared - he was visiting his friends, the poet, Frances Cornford and her husband Francis Cornford [Cambridge professor] who were living/staying at Umgeni.        I noticed that in one of the old messages on your site Umgeni is refered to - apparently a Captain James Randall had lived there. I am coming to stay at Cley in a weeks time and am trying to find out where theses cottages are as I would love to see them -- I don't suppose you know of them?         I do hope you don't mind my asking, especially as my query is about Cley rather than Salthouse!                  With thanks,

                          Lorna Beckett

Hello Lorna,
How very interesting about Rupert Brooke and Frances Cornford - one of my favourite poets.I'm not sure, but I think they are on the Coast Road quite near the road to Cley beach. I'm sure they'd soon tell you in the George pub or somewhere like that. 
All the best
Val
PS: May I put your message 'up'? it might be interesting to others!

Thanks to putting this message here, Ann Ward (who had changed her address) spotted it and answered on Wed June 4th!

see above

(1)From: Anthony Mingay Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:04 AMSubject: CD The Buried Parishe Records

Hi Val,

I believe you have made a CD of "the buried parish records" of Salthouse. Would be willing to purchase the same if and only if they show actual copies of the registers in the handwriting of the day.  The reason is that I am exploring the idea that the name MYNGS is a variant of the family name MINGE; I also appreciate that this not the first time the idea has been muted. The main argument is that it is only in the Salthouse registers that the earliest recordings of 'MYNGS' appears (apart from those in one parish in Buckinghamshire, which themselves are in dispute) and that his father, said to be John MYNGS at his marriage to Katherine PARR,  was from St. Katherine parish in London where there is strong evidence that the name is John MINGE.Sorry to be so long winded but the CD would not help if it is a transcription of the PR's. Being now resident in New Zealand cannot just pop up to Norwich/Norfolk as I used to from Lowestoft, Suffolk a few years back to confirm such new records.By the way the web-site is a credit to its Author, I do hope to hear from you in the near future.Regards Tony(Anthony John MINGAY; researching MINGAY and its variants of which MINGE is one)
PS. payment sometimes can be a bit long winded and/or awkward from NZ but can be done.
(2)Hello Again Val,
Many thanks for your very quick reply, which clarifed all my queries. How I missed the 'CD' icon I'll never know, call it a senior moment.However in the list of surnames appearing in those Registers, I did not see the bap. of Christopher MYNGS although the marriage of John MINGE is listed, who I presume to be the father, or is this another one of those moments. Sorry to be so awkward but as it is the difference in the spellings which the subject of my investigation, hence my concern.Shortly I will arranging payment for the CD, when the banks open on Monday.
Many Regards Tony

(3)Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:03 PM
Subject:
Re: Web-Site/CD

Again Hello,
I will admit to be very excited to be able to view the marriage entry for John MINGE because if it is EXACTLY that, then it implies that Sir Christopher MINGS used the wrong surname through out his life and of course his heirs; are we about to rewrite history:)) ?? Again if true, it is all very odd because although Sir Christopher is reported to have 'boasted' of his humble 'beginnings' he never seems to have mentioned any of his siblings.
Awaiting with baited breath for the post.

Many, many thanks again for your help.
Regards Tony
(4)From: Val Fiddian
To: Tony Mingay
Sent:
Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:12 PM

Hello Tony,
It'll go off tomorrow. I'm still mystified about the spelling. Stagg in his manuscript spells the name Mings in the baptism of Christopher. (I think it must be from the Kelling Register that he took it) but in the photographed page (No 53) of the Salthouse buried register the marriage of John Minge is spelt Mynge  (according to my transcriber). . .BUT have you seen the Parr tree ; http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/parrtree.htm (it has a link from the alphabetical list of names where Myngs is listed under M- I get muddled with all the machinations of my own site!). This tree spells Christopher's father as Minge and Christopher as Myngs !!  which is just what you want! - and this is far more authentic than any spelling of a seventeenth-century parson!
 Val
PS I've just noticed that on that Parr tree it says Katherine was born in Kelling. The Kelling registers were buried with the Salthouse ones. They were not so badly damaged but were much eaten away all round the edges. Somewhere I have a disk of photos taken of them if only I can find it . . .  but that won't be soon.

From: b.preston
Sent:
Friday, April 04, 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: Eastgate Cottage

EASTGATE COTTAGE, SALTHOUSE

People who so kindly wrote to the council nearly a year ago now!! concerning the threat to Eastgate Cottage, have all received this terrific good news from the NNDC that the planning permission has been finally REFUSED! Here are some of those;

Hi Val,Hope you are well and enjoying this spell of good weather.  We were so pleased to receive a letter from North Norfolk District Council today with details of the decision re the building of two properties in Cross Street.  You and the community of Salthouse must be overjoyed that the planning permission has been refused  and from the angle of visiting Salthouse we certainly are.  Salthouse is beautiful the way it is.  Is a celebratory drink at the 'Dun Cow' for you all on the menu?
Look forward to seeing you again. hopefully sometime this year.

Love from
Brenda and Doug
From: Glen Matthews To: 'Val Fiddian' Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 4:53 PMSubject: RE: Eastgate Cottage Salthouse

Hi ValI received a letter today from North Norfolk planning and note that the erection of buildings were refused. Glad to be of assistance. Hope you are OK and that your site continues to grow from strength to strength.Regards

Glen Matthews

From: "Wendy Austin"To: "Val Fiddian"Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:15 PM
Subject: eastgate cottage
Hi Val,

 Just heard from NNDC that the planning permission has been refused. So well done - you can sleep soundly again for the time being
- I'm sure another application will go in at some stage in the future - but hopefully it will be for something smaller & more in-keeping.
How right you are! 'the Seven Whistlers', opposite Eastgate Cottage is now under threat of alteration! click here but hopefully the beautyof its architecture will not be spoiled.

Hope you are well - I was in Blakeney again this weekend with the children - we had a great time despite the weather!!!

Wendy
From: Min and Artie To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: hello

Hello ValI have just been looking at the Salthouse site and it is really fantastic now and I found out quite a bit more about the Cookes.I have not looked it up for ages and there is so much more information, with the baptisms, marriages etc.I even was surprised to see my name (Marguerite Zen, nee Le Monnier) along with my mums, Winnie Le Monnier, nee Cunningham, on the Cooke family tree.I was surprised that I did not find any Cooke names in the census returns but guess that they must have lived somewhere else!Anyway, compliments on the web site and keep up the good work.Best wishes
Marguerite , Bormio, Italy 

From: Jenny Adams
To: Val Fiddian
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:19 AM
Subject: Re Picture
Dear Val
 Wow, what a wonderful surprise I had when I opened up your email! The picture of Rebecca and her family evolved in front of my eyes, and to have all the additional information to hand was fantastic.
 Please thank John Christie for sending the picture to you, I guess he is a sort of cousin to me!
 Would it be possible for you to pass on my email address to him,  so I may thank him myself? Yes of course!
 Looking at the picture I would guess that the slightly older man standing behind the family group could be a brother or father of  Frederick Miles as they seem to have the same nose!
Perhaps I will be able to get up  to Norfolk this year, can't believe last year flew by without me  managing a trip north.
 Take care
 Thanks again for the wonderful picture

It's thanks to John Christie who sent the photo to me, with a copy for Jenny - Thanks John! from Val

click here to see it!

 Jenny

From: Jenny Kirtley To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:56 PM
Subject: salthouse

Dear Val, I was thrilled to see my baptism record on your site no 688 but just to let you know I was born 21 June 1951 not 1947, my mother was Doris Leman & I believe you met my father a few years ago during the exhibition on the history of Salthouse. Unfotunately Dad died in Oct 07 age 93 & one of the last trips he made was to Salthouse, he could not believe that the old barns Uncle Newton used to keep his horses in are now being developed into expensive housing, how things change. He loved Salthouse as do I & we often visit The Dun Cow when we are in the area. I am researching the family tree and if any one has any info on Leman, Farthing, Starling or Lubbock I would love to hear from them. I have also got some old land maps, photos of Kelling School and other photos which I will be pleased to share with anyone interested, thanks for the great site I wish Mum could have seen a photo of her in the bowls team she would have loved it.
Kind regards Jenny Kirtley 

From: "Egypt"
To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:21 PM
Subject: West Beckham Workhouse

Dear Val,

Congratulations on a first class Salthouse website. I'm Yorkshire born
and bred (or so I thought) and was reading your website out of curiosity
when I found references to Pigott. This was the maiden name of my
mother, Alice, who lived all her life in Middlesbrough but had told me
she thought her family had been involved in the coastal trade in Great
Yarmouth before moving to north-east England. I was therefore
enthralled to see listed in the Pigott tree my maternal grandmother,
Nellie Madison, who married Frederick Pigott (b.1891) in 1914 (my mother
arrived in 1915). Also of great interest was seeing Frederick Pigott's
father Gabriel (b.1849) together with a photograph of him. When I
searched through family photographs I was delighted to find two of
Frederick as an old man, one in a card from South Shields and the second
of him standing outside a house (probably in Middlesbrough); the
photograph has the date '1926' written on the reverse.

Having now found a Salthouse family link going back to at least 1823 I
would be interested to read the details of any of the Pigotts listed in
the 1867 to 1932 West Beckham Workshouse Index for Deaths and Index for
Births.

Regards,

John Summersgill

From: Egypt
To: Val Fiddian
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: West Beckham Workhouse inmatesDear Val, Thanks for your prompt response, it was very kind of you.  I'll keep the workhouse information private and will certainly get in touch with Paula Round. My wife and I drove over to Salthouse at the weekend, visiting the church and having lunch in the pub.  Having read the data on your website it was quite moving to find so many of the people you listed lying in the church yard.  It was also pleasing to find the church open (thankfully so many are in North Norfolk) - but one has to wonder how much of a sermon or service could have been heard over the noise of the carving of ships and names going on in the choir and even on the back of the screen! We noticed in the church visitors book that someone had referred to Gabriel Pigott (b.1823), describing him as having been a real character.  We thought perhaps these people had found some literature in the church which mentioned Gabriel but couldn't find any.  I would think it most unlikely that a book would have been written just about him but he could well have been included in a book of Norfolk characters and anecdotes.  Are you aware of anything having been written?    He seems to have been a Victorian version of a 'twitcher' - but armed with a shotgun instead of a camera.

Regards,

I made a new page of Gabriel Pigott with an article that was in the Salthouse Book: click here to see it! - Val

John 

From: David Walker To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:22 AM
Subject: Salthouse Baptisms

Hello,
I am researching my family history, and came across your site is the entry for No 26 correct or should it be 1816.  As I am positive this is the Mary Ann Keymer who married William Durrant Mayes in Blakeney, Norfolk on 28/3/1835. 

26

b 21 June 1806
bpt 23 June "

Marianne dau of

William
& Sarah

KEYMER

Salthouse

Yeoman

 I have her on the 1841 census living Salthouse Norfolk.  With her father William who had remarried the Ann by then. 

Willm Keymer

abt 1776

Norfolk, England

Salthouse, Norfolk

Ann Keymer

abt 1786

Norfolk, England

Salthouse, Norfolk

Mary Ann Mays

abt 1816

Norfolk, England

Salthouse, Norfolk

William Mays

abt 1838

Norfolk, England

Salthouse, Norfolk

 

Your site has provided me with a great deal of information about the Keymers. Best Wishes, 

David Walker

From: Val Fiddian To: David Walker
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Salthouse Baptisms
Hello,At last when I have time to look at that page on my own site, I see it is a stupid 'typo' (How could I have not spotted it!)  Without going to the actual photographs of that baptism book (which I can't for the moment find . . .) I can say that it is certainly 1816 - not 1806. Because I know they were copied in sequence.I'm grateful to you for pointing it out to me! Kind regards 
Val
From: LOUISE COCKER To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 3:39 PM
Subject: SALTHOUSE

DEAR VAL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A MASSIVE WELL DONE TO THE SALHOUSE WEB PAGE, IVE BEEN ON HERE OVER 6 HOURS TODAY, THIS IS DEFINITELY THE BEST VILLAGE SITE I HAVE EVER SEEN. I HAVE SOME HIGHS AND PIGOTTS IN MY TREE SO THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT HELPIM HOPING TO POP OVER SOON SO I CAN PURCHASE THE BOOK AND CD, I WAS ONLY THERE LAST WEEK LOOKING ROUND THE CHURCHYARD

ANYWAY YOU DESERVE A MEDAL FOR ALL THAT HARD WORK

a bit of praise is very chuffing! Thanks - Val

KIND REGARDS LOUISE COCKER

From: aulsegocia To: valfiddian Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: Looking for more information about James High

This message has been sent through the Ancestry connection service. Simply reply to this email to respond to aulsegocia_1 through the connection service. Note: The connection service uses your Ancestry username to identify you and does not display your name or email address. If you would like to remain anonymous, be sure to remove any personal information that your email program may include in your reply.

Dear valfiddian,

I saw some information you posted on Ancestry that seems related to research that I am doing. Here’s what I found:

Name: James High
Birth Date: 1891
Death Date: 1915

James High was the first husband of my husbands grandmother Mary. Mary High later married her first husband's Uncle, James Emmerson, who was the the brother of James High's mother. Sounds a bit complicated.The Highs originally came from Norfolk , I think. I am researching my husband family tree and do Have some information if you would like to contact me.

From: J YTo: valfiddian Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: I found your profile on Ancestry - requesting more information

Good Morning.
I am researching my family roots and there seems to be clear links through the Otton lines.
I am most interested to learn some of the High family details and had no idea of any NZ connection.
Would like to explore possibilities of further respective information exchange please.
The link here is through my relative Amy Elizabeth Otton,the spouse of Albert S High.
Looking foward to hearing from you.
JY
Dear JY,If you click on the following link ; http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/fred'spages.html You will find information compiled by Fred High of Australia Click on the tree symbol at top of page and that will take you to a copy of the High Tree made by Fred. You will view it in Acrobat as a PDF file. In Acrobat use the 'find' to type in OTTON, and you will immediately be taken to the marriage of Amy Elizabeth Otton and Albert S High.Let me know if you have difficulties locating it. The 'find' facility in Acrobat is pretty good and you shouldn't have any difficulty.Kind regards 
Val Fiddian
Good Evening Val,
 Just a brief word of thanks for sending me this very comprehensive history,which at first glance looks most interesting to see how my late aunt factors into the High dynasty.
 What a fascinating trail and in due course will be contacting Fred High,as I am sure he will doubtless have interest in the links with my ancestors.
 Kind Regards.
 John Yates.

From: Angela Miles
To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:31 PM
Subject: Salthouse Website

Hello - Having just returned from a weekend break in Cley, I just came across your EXCELLENT Salthouse website! Do you know if there is a local historian such as yourself in Cley who I can contact via e-mail please? I look forward to hearing from you.

Warm Wishes Angela Miles

Hello Angela,
No, I don't know anyone like myself in Cley!  But there is a Cley website, and they might be the best people?  Also, there is of course, the Blakeney Area History Society which covers not only Blakeney, but a wide area of villages around it. You can find it on the Glaven Valley website.

Sorry not to be of more help.

Kind regards,   and thanks for saying nice things about the website!

Val

From: Malcolm High To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:49 PM
Subject: Greetings
ValFirst warm greetings for this new year and the continude success of your website. Not only does it provide information but it also opens up the door for wider contact which in my case has been so helpful. Additionally the more you look at the same and review the jigsaw comes together even more.  Recently one person who has featured in your letters who is certainly a-Round (Sorry Paula) kindly sent me a Family tree which pre-dates what I already had from 1847 confirming the information Steve had sent me,and a reference to Henry High and Willoughby Castons marriage by Sue Howes (14/2/05) - Paula`s information takes the tree back to 1763 which really is wonderful !   There is one more matter and that is if anyone knows Jane Howe I can aid her with information she was seeking 2 years ago about the High connection in Sheringham.  Every good wish to all 
Malcolm High
From: Colin PegramTo: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:34 PM
Dear Val   My name is Colin Pegram. I am researching one of my Ancestral relatives from your area and was wondering if there are any living relatives that you might know or friends that could help me.  My Relative I am researching is Alexander Easter Forsdick [ Friday ]. I was in Salthouse Saturday 10th November and found that his Bungalow although restored is still standing. [see www.salthousehistory.co.uk/forsdick.html] My relationship to Friday is 3rd Cousin and as I am researching my family tree you can see my interest. I have tried finding his marriage dates to his two wives Emma & Evelyn without success also his  & his wife's Death dates also without success. So I was hoping to find someone who could help me. Would you know if his Daughter Betty is still alive and living nearby or any other member of his family.   I have printed off the information from the Salthouse History document. I am connected to Friday via John Forsdick 1795-1882 my GGG-grandfather who was Friday`s G-grandfather. John was head Gamekeeper to the Earl of Essex at Cassiobury House, Watford, Hertfordshire.  

  If you know of anyone who can help me I would also like to book the Old Bakery for a weekend, perhaps the evenings of Friday 23rd & Sat 24th November. Looking forward to your reply, Kindest regards - Colin

< Click on the picture to see full size

From: Margie Britz To: Val Fiddian<salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk>Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Big Draw images

  Dear Val ,
  I am sending you some of the Big Draw images that were done in Wells.

Have a look at them! CLICK here


( the drawings from each market town have a distinctly different  
character to the images from the other towns. They are all (all 100 of 
them ) going up on the hoardings of the new Tourist Information Centre 
in Cromer in mid November where they will be for approx six months 
while the building is being completed, do go and have a look ,  there 
are some very lovely  and interesting drawings and sentiments.
   Love, Margie

From: MaijuStu@aol.com To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:15 PM
Subject: Girdlestone family

Hi, Just to let readers know that I am a decendent of  Richard Girdlestone of Thornage  and Thomas Girdlestone 1640. RegardsStuart Ramsden
From: E.J. To: valfiddian Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:37 PM
Subject: Looking for more information about Archibald Christopher Davies

Dear valfiddian,

I saw some information you posted on Ancestry that seems related to research that I am doing. Here’s what I found:

Name: Archibald Christopher Davies
Birth Date: 1892

Do you have more information about this person that you could share with me?
I know this family quite well. Archibald Christopher Davies, daughter Margaret is 82 years old and I see her quite frequently.. How can I assist you
Thank you,

Dear bg3604,

Thank you for your kind message - I am Val Fiddian, but I'm really in the dark I didn't realise I was a member of Ancestry.com and wasn't aware that I had posted anything on it! I haven't heard of Archibald Christopher Davies .

I just typed the name into my website site-search to see if he is mentioned anywhere in it - but he isn't! So it's a mystery!  is he - or his daughter anything to do with Salthouse?

From:E.J.
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for more information about Archibald Christopher Davies

Was the family of Amy Elizabeth High and her ancestery from Salthouse.. I seem to pick that name up as I am researching the High Family and Davies Family..Thanks
E.J.

Val said: I took the trouble to search in the High tree for your lady and found her there. If you want to, you can do the same. If you go to my website www.salthousehistory.co.uk and choose the 'trees' tab (on the left of the home page) and choose from it 'High' and then 'William 1705' you will open Fred High's tree of Highs who began in Salthouse. If you want to contact Fred go back to the Home Page and choose 'people' (from tabs on the left) then HIGH then Fred High in Australia.

 Your Archibald is descended from Benjamin High born in Salthouse 1776 who is the ancestor of a mass of Highs who didn't stay long in Salthouse!

I'm sure Fred would be interested in the research you are doing on the Davies branch!

Val

From: Frances & Derek Lee To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:38 PMSubject: Salthouse websiteDear Val 
(comments in red are bits from my reply-Val)
I am writing to congratulate you on a superbly informative website. My sister Gillian Read (see Jimmy High sections) has obviously already been in touch with you and I am currently working on extending the family tree as she drew it up some years ago. Imagine my delight when I found that Fred High had already done pretty well all of the work already! I do have some questions for you: 1 - Jary, Jeary or Geary (Polly married my Great Grandfather Henry High in 1874)?  all three spellings crop up in the census..... Yes, I have seen the name Geary spelt in such different ways - I assume they were each all right at the time. 2 - In his autobiography my Grandfather Jimmy High says he was born in December 1880 & not 1881 - is this his memory playing up or has Fred High got it wrong in the family tree? I'm sure your grandfather was the one who knew best about his date of birth!  Fred's info may have come from a census where they were often pretty loose with ages of children?? 3 - I'm not quite sure if Fred High is still looking for updates to the tree - if he is I can certainly let him have an update on Jimmy High's descendants. I bet he would be grateful 3 - Grandfather High married a Sheringham girl - Laura Johnson. Do you know if anyone has done any work on the Johnson family tree? sorry, I don't know anything about Laura's Sheringham Johnsons I look forward to hearing from you best regards 
Derek Lee (son of Elsie who is now pretty well the last remaining 'level 7' in our branch of the Highs)
From: Stephanie To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:49 AM
Subject: HELP, PLEASE!
Hello.  I am trying to do a report for my high school English class.  I used to have a copy of the coat of arms and family history for my maternal grandmother's maiden name (Cook).  Her maiden name was Emily Loretta Cook (married surname: Taylor).  I need to find out as much information as I can on my family...  I would ask her but she passed on a few years ago and now i cannot find the paper i had.  I noticed the article about the Cooke family on your website and I was wondering if this was the same family.  Is there any way you can possibly help me find out?  This is not only for an English grade to me, but also for a personal reason:  I want to learn my roots...  Can you please help me or possibly point me towards a site that is free that might be able to help me?  I would greatly appreciate it... Thanks!
Stephanie

my reply:

Hello Stephanie,

I am not much of a genealogist myself I'm afraid, just a webmaster and collector of specifically Salthouse stuff!

But I can give a bit of advice: It will help if you know where your Cooks came from. Do you know where your grandmother was born? Then you can look at the censuses for that town and find out who her parents were and if she had any siblings.

There are so many magazines and books on Family History at the moment with advice about how to begin. There are also many free sites with information. I will ask which are the best, and let you know.

You can do a bit of general research on the name Cook: If you click on this link: http://www.houseofnames.com/fc.asp?sId=&s=Cook   best regards

Val

From: Barbara Salmon To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: woodhouse family tree

Dear Mrs FiddianFirst of all I would like to congratulate you on the great job you are doing on the Salthouse site. I love dipping into it.I was born in Cherub Cottage at the bottom of the pub yard in 1941. My parents were Bertie Woodhouse and Edna (nee Duffield)We lived there until the flood of 1953 after which we moved to Sandy Hill Estate. I lived there with my parents and brother Roger until I went to London to train as a teacher.My parents moved to Weybourne in the early sixties when my father changed jobs.I was married in Salthouse church in 1965. My parents are both buried in the churchyard.My mother's youngest sister is Freda Holman (Swift Cottage). I also have two cousins in the village, Virginia Wright and Brian Holman.I am sending you part of the Woodhouse family tree as I know it, as you have me with the wrong parents on the website.
I hope it's the right size when it reaches you (I sometimes get the size wrong when emailing!)I've been researching my family tree since I retired and have a fair bit of information.My son lives in Hethel (just outside Wymondham) so my husband and I are fairly frequent visitors to Norfolk althoughwe've lived in Sheffield for the last 30 years.If you are interested in any more of the family tree or any photos please let me know and I'll try to get over to see youon one of our trips to Hethel.I must correct one error on the website. When you click on Tom Woodhouse, the lady with the ducks is his wife Mary (nee High). (Thanks Barbara -I've changed it! Val)Bessie was their eldest daugher.I hope this information is of some use to you. Best wishes 

Barbara Salmon (nee Woodhouse)

From: Barbara Salmon (again)To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:51 PM
Subject: woodhouses

Dear Val,What a prompt reply! I'm glad the family tree is of use to you. (It's very helpful and I will have it online soon!- Val)As you now see from the tree, my parents were Edna and Bertie not Fred and Julia. (But that's another Barbara Woodhouse! - Val)I shall be more than happy if you copy my tree and put it on the site. I agree it is very sad that the shop has closed. I could hardly believe it when Freda told me earlier this year. I was eleven when the flood happened( my birthday is in June). Yes my father did knock through a wall.I'll send you some of my memories of that time when I have more time. It wont be until next weekbecause we look after a small grandson on a Thursday and then we're away for the weekend.By all means put my email on the message page. I'll contact you again soon. Regards 
Barbara   
From: Margaret Mcshane To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject: Old ruin outside Salthouse

Hello Val,
I have visited Salthouse for over 15 years and have bought your Salthouse history book. I have always wanted to know the history of an old building outside the village. As you drive down from Weybourne direction you can see an old building/barn on the right hand side near the sea.  It has been a ruin for a while.  Was it a barn or an old house years ago?  If it is, is it mentioned in your book or on the website?

 Thanks

Hello Margaret,
It was a barn!  and here it is in action - I guess around the 1930s 
 The photo is one of several farming photos leant to me by Alan High of Salthouse. It was shown in a collection of large-sized farming photos in the recent Buried Records exhibition in the church. They are not on the web-site yet , and they were discovered several years after I did the book. It is marked on the 1838 tithe map, I think. Kind regards
Val

 Margaret

From: Joe ZeligsSent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:49 AMSubject: Dix Family of Salthouse

Dear Val Fiddian,
I am researching a very fine Powell & Lealand brass microscope, made in 1845, many of the parts engraved with a family crest, which appears to belong to the Dix family (a composite picture showing several of the engravings of this crest is attached). An online Google book (Church Heraldry of Norfolk, from 1889) indicates a William Dix, son and heir of John Dix (1799-1875, buried at Salthouse). It is clear from the crest on the church wall where John is buried that it is an exact match of that on my microscope (greyhound's head, argent, ducally gorged, gules, between two wings erect, or.) and I wonder if John might have been the original owner of this microscope. Do you know anything of this gentleman (John Dix) and whether he might have had an interest in such an instrument, or perhaps where I might learn more about him?
Many thanks in advance for any assistance that you may be able to provide.

Joe Zeligs                   CLICK HERE to see his attached image

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM
Subject:
HMS Princes Victoria
Sir   I was directed to your website via google,while looking  for info about Thomas Davidson RN,who was killed on the  Princess Victoria ,1940 .Someone requested info on crewmen. Mr Davidson was married to my mother Mary Ellen (Irwin) at that time. They were both from Belfast,my mother is still living ,in New York City . He is buried in Norfolk,Cley next to the sea.
Any info about him or his ship would be welcome.
Thank You
           Charles Hughes

I'm sure that Google directed you to the very good site: www.members.lycos.co.uk/hmsprincessvictoria/ 
I can't offer anything more helpful than that - though there was quite a correspondence about other members of the crew on my website at one time. All the messages are still online but not listed - you have to search through!
 
Nice to meet you
Val

From: charlie To: Val Fiddian Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: HMS Princes Victoria

Thank you so much, no I was not directed to the web site you mentioned. It is as much as I had hoped for. I'll print it out and present it to me mum,although I'll have to do it gently,its a lot of info after so many years...............
once again
Thank You

From: Bridget Mather To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Elsy Family

Hi I would like to add to the Elsy family from my grandfather's side Charles Henty was the son of William Cornelius born Cley-next-to-the-seaalso the coat of Arms 

Bridget Mather

From:Malcolm High
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: Cley connection ?

Hi 
I have enjoyed very much looking at the Salthouse site - having stopped and fed the ducks in the occasional visits to the area I never thought that one day I would decide to look up family connections and be looking at the photos of the area as well as information about the area and of course the `High clan`. I am amused as I was today when people ask me to spell the name out.

I was born and bred in Sheringham my Mum came from Hindol. My Father Reginald came from Letheringsett where lived his Sister Lily and my Gran whilst his Bro George lived in 1 The Butts Wells.I did not know my Grandfather George who must have died when I was a child (I was B1935) His Brother Walter had a son called Peter who used the name High-Caston until 15 yrs ago farmed in Letehringsett Pam his wife was alive when I saw her 2 yrs ago and they have two sons one in SA and the other in Grt Snoring who also use the High-caston name...my Father was reg Caston-High but dropped it when he discovered that when he had trouible getting the Pension - they did not know who he was and he then had to `pay £5 to change his name to what he always thought it was!) With wlater and George there was Rosa and Albert (I think he and his family lived in  Thornage).  I can go nback to William (1847 and his wife Harriet and then someone emailed me to say that he lived with hijs Grandparents Henry and Weberly (who came from Briston) plus Uncel James 18 and Aunt Mary Ann 24.... Frankly I am intriqued with the Caston connection and am unsure whether Fred High will have info as the family seem more Cley based....anywaywill email Fred...
 There were Caston Highs in weybourne but they did not think we were related....there is a saying `it will all come out in the WASH` ! But I dont think the family went that far in Norfolk.

Anyway congrats on a marvelous site...of course if you are partial to info or know where I could get more that would be helpful...must walk round Salthouse the next time we are in Norfolk (I left when I was 17)
Kind regards

Malcolm High

MALCOLM'S 2nd letter
To: 'Val Fiddian' Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: Cley connection ?
Val Many thanks for your reply - if I knew you were going to post it to your bulletin I would have taken more care - but as now once the adrenalin getts going my hands on the keyboard cannot keep pace with my thoughts ! And alas my previous attempt I somehow wiped off.
 Haivng looked at your website again I was interested in the name of the owner of the Fish resturant. When in May I visited Letheringsett I was advised to speak to Arthur (He uses another name)Cockely who is into Bait ! He told me that the last Caston High he knew was Mary Ann who married a Policemen now retired at Acle..he had a Brother somewhere nearer but I have forgotten where. However using 118.com I found the name of Hook and wrote at the beginning of August to see if it might be the same person - it was a chance but no reply at this time. Also some years ago I called into a shop in Cley with High on it and whilst he did not appear to be a relative...now I would have had more info...he did say that his understanding was that years before to French farmers came to Norfolk then fell out and went their sperate ways...one either added and E or dropped it from the name. I say this because you have a Hye in your information and then because some years ago when visitjg Norfolk...we saw a stall on Norwich market where they were selling seeds with the name Highe on the packets.Also something I learned recently that during the persecution of Christians in France in the 17th century many folks came to Norfolk... Before I left Sheringham (my parents went ot the Reading area 5 years later) I worked for a greengrocer and one day we went to Stody gardens to collect produce..when we were returning I was asked about the man we dealt with and when I was told it was my uncle I said I did not know that my boss said he had wondered becuase he thought I would have known who he was ! When I think of its nearness to Holt/Briston which is apparently where my GGF Grandparents lived there must be a tie up somewhere. Even to the Salthouse HIghs., ? Incidently when I was speaking to Arthur a couple of his `worm diggers`? passed by and one made a humourous remark...then heard me say my Mum came from, Hindol - when asked her name I said Doy and his family lived next door.. Anyway enough for now...many thanks again ...and what super photos and information...glad someone told me about it. Kind regards  
Malcolm
3rd letter from Malcolm High
From:M High
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Hi Val

Hi ValThanks for posting my letters on the website...I need to buy a laptop soon otherwise my wife will think Ive left her- my study is upstairs .!However having read through the messages more thoroughly and because in the meantime Paula Round & Steve Corke sent me very helpful information I think there may well be a connection with Sue Howes...she mentions Willoughby Caston marrying Henry High - they looked after William his uncle James 18 and Aunt Mary Ann 24 ....William married Harriet and they had four children Rosa. Walter Albert and George my Grandfather ! Thats how I read it anyway....so maybe Sue would like to speak further about this...This may solve the query I had about the Caston-Highs with willoughby and Henry marrying and possibily using their names in double barrelled fashion..!Kind regards
Malcolm
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 7:57 PM
Subject: Ref. Girdlestone

Hi  Val, Following up on that settlement record for Ishmail Girdlestone, from a previous email. From the Ingworth parish registers:- Mary daughter of Ishmael GIRDLESTONE, baptised July 27, 1712Elizabeth ye daughter of James GIRDLESTONE baptised May 4th ? 1714Ishmael son of Ishmael GIRDLESTONE born..... Aug............  Bapt. ye...........  1715 Nothing more on the baptisms for Girdlestone that I see.  It seems this family were only in Ingworth for a while.But in the burials. Ishmael GIRDLESTONE buried April 9th, 1715. Perhaps these will fit in with the Girdlestone family from Salthouse, who knows.All the best
Honor
From: honor jones
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:42 PM
Subject: Mack entries from Wickmere for the message section

Dear Val, I noted Jean's email which notes the mention of Wickmere in connection with the Mack family.These are the entries for MACK which appear in the Archdeacons Transcripts for that surname from 1665 - 1812, but please note these Ats are missing part years and whole years all the time.  The parish registers would give a more complete coverage. Wickmere AT's1730  Dec 20th.  William son of William & Mary MACK was bapt.1738  Aug 12th.  John son of John & Mary MACK was bapt. A marriage was almost illegible to the transcriber, Linda Stewart, it was crossed out and then this entry was made. (note the surname of the bride was not noted).  1737  Oct 19  John MACK and Mary his wife were married.The parish register would give the full entry. A burial - please note another parish is noted.1748  June 19th.  Elizabeth MACK from Woolterton [Wolterton] was buried.

Hope this helps with the search.

Honor.
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:01 PM
Subject: Salthouse folks

Dear Val, 

Just been going through the Norfolk Record Office catalogue and came across these Salthouse surnames  on Settlement certificates.

These settlement certificates were papers certifying the person's home parish, or the right to dwell there.  Any person without right of settlement,  could be removed, hence only those certified were allowed parish relief from the taxpayers if they fell on hard times. 

Girdlestone surname [I know many reading the Salthouse History data are following this family].

 In the parish records of Ingworth.  Overseers of the Poor.

A settlement certificate for Ishmeall GERDELSTEN, his wife and children granted on 3 Aug 1709 - gave certification for the parish of Corpusty.  Place of Residence:  Ingworth.

A settlement certificate for George GIRDLESTON, & wife Ann dated 18 Sept 1818.
Certification parish:  Corpusty;  Place of Residence: Holt.

And in the parish of Fakenham.  Oct 1757
Robert COLLS, cordwainer and wife Mary, acquired a setttlement certificate for the parish of Salthouse.
Their parish of residence:  Fakenham.

The catalogue of the NRO is invaluable to the genealogist.   Enter NROCAT in a search engine, followed by the parish or surname required.
Use the 'clickable' below each description, to see further information.
This catalogue also gives the index for the wills for the Archdeaconry courts on each parish, and the ones for Salthouse are there.  Also notes ref deeds etc of the Salthouse property.   Photocopies of such material can be easily purchased from the NRO for individual researchers.. I think if folks who are interested in Salthouse, look through this catalogue they will note the many will indices there for Salthouse.

All the best to you.

Thanks so much Honor for this information
- - and all the best to you!
Val

see the list of early Salthouse Wills contributed by Honor in 2005

Honor
 
From: Sharon Bishop (1st message )
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:17 AM
Subject: salthouse website

It is a wonderful thing you are doing with this website!  I am an American looking for my ancestors.  My name is Sharon Bishop.  I am the great-granddaughter of William Purdy Bishop (1861-1907) who was the grandson of William Purdy.  I did see the note about William & Robert under the PURDY name.  Were William & Robert brothers?  William Purdy Bishop emigrated to the US around 1883.  If there is anyone out there who can help me with my family search I would appreciate it.  Thanks.

From: Sharon Bishop (2nd message)
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:42 AM Subject: Re: salthouse website

I believe the William Purdy I am looking for is the Sathouse landowner.  I have ordered and received a marriage certificate from the GRO that Mary Ann Purdy married Everett Bishop on 31 July, 1860 in the Parish Church in the Parish of Salthouse in the County of Norfolk.  The birth certificate (born 23 May, 1861) for William Purdy Bishop shows his parents as Everett Bishop and Mary Ann Bishop, formerly Purdy.  I have not yet found the birth information for Mary Ann Purdy to verify that William Purdy was her father.  I am currently deciphering some census records.  The 1881 census lists William Purdy, aged 78 & widowed living on Holt Road (Salthouse, Norfolk, England) with Ellen Purdy, unmarried, aged 45 (another daughter?) William P Bishop, unmarried, aged 19, and 3 other people.  Was the Salthouse/Kelling land you speak of on Holt Road?  I did go through the Salthouse baptisms, marriages, & burials on your website and found a few items of interest.  I hope they are more parts to my puzzle.  There is a burial of Jane Purdy pm 17 Feb 1838 and a baby buried 13 weeks later.  When I find a birthday of Mary Ann Purdy if it is before 1838 Jane could be William Purdy's wife.  He is listed as a widower in more than one census.  William Purdy Bishop was born in Blakeney & William Purdy was born in Egmere so I will see if I can find some church records in those communities that will supply more puzzle pieces.  If you like when I get more documents to verify these ancestors I will send you my tree.  Thanks for your interest. 

Sharon Bishop.

From: Winnie Le Monnier
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Salthouse

dear Val,it was good to hear from you,I sinncerely hope they dont go ahead with the building at Eastgate cottage.

sadly it seems to be happening everwhere these days,sometimes it's necessary but otherwise it's just greed.

we live in a very quiet avenue,but last year  one resident decided to sell to a develloper who demolished the bungalow and built  two 2 storey houses blocking the view of the residents facing them, unfortunately we were to late to prevent it. apart from all that I and my family are well and trust you are too.

keep up the good works,

kind regards from Winnie le Monnier

Twenty two people let me know that they had written to the council in respose to the ALERT message about planning for overdevelopment in Cross Street . Hopefully many more who saw the details also wrote to the council before Monday 16th July! THANKYOU all so much. I'll let you know the outcome eventually. Val

click on "ALERT" to see the details
From: Alison TrippSent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Dew Family of Salthouse
> Hi Val
>
> What a BRILLIANT site you have created!
>
> I was wondering if you could put me in touch with anyone from the area
> that is researching the DEW Family, I have a family tree of my Dew's
> going back to Britiffe Edmund Dew b c1793 in Salthouse, d 1876 in
> Norwich, in subsequent Census Returns he gives his place of birth as
> Salthouse, Norfolk.
>
> Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Alison Tripp
> www.quinfamily.co.uk
From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject:
Macks in Salthouse
see Yvonne Mack's letter one down!

Dear Yvonne -
I read your letter on the Salthouse Site and thought (as I transcribed the register) that I would check the name that you thought might have been mis interpreted. I am afraid that the name in 1539 is not Mack or any version of it - it is Marrhm which is an abbreviated version of a name which could be something like Marsham or maybe Marrham or something else entirely.

There are however quite a few Mack references in the 1600s including one who was from 'Wickmer' and another who married an Edinye which could be a good reference if you already have that name in your family. You may also be able to pick out others on the disk as there are many part names where the edges of pages are missing.

I hope this is of some help to you

Jean

From: Bob Salthouse
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:18 AM
Subject: Salthouse in antipodes

Val, My name is Robert Leslie Salthouse, born in AustraliaSon of William John Salthouse, born in AustraliaSon of Alfred, born in England.I was looking for a MySpace on the net, where one of my 26 grandchildren is setting up a message centre for greetings for my 80th birthday, September 18th, when, serendipity, your site appeared.We are a spread group in Australia, and there is another group in New Zealand, who are no relation we can find, but whose origins are from Canada. I cannot trace my father's line back further than a Gabrielle Salthouse.My mother's tree goes back almost to the book.  Her maiden name was Gordon, and she was born in Scotland in 1900, came to Australia in 1914.  I may be 80, but I still work a 14 hour day, 7 days, so 'when I get a minute', I'll delve farther.  For the present, I must try and work the brain to find this MySpace, of which I know nothing - yet! 
Regards, Bob Salthouse (Forget the 'Robert', here in Queensland it's Bob).
From: Yvonne Mack
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 3:15 PM
Subject: Mack

HI I have been researching my husbands family history in Norfolk  for about 15 years and from not knowing anything about his family have weaved our  through to about 1685 and are 90 % sure he is connected to the Paston Mack’s of Dillham through Henry Mack of Dilhams son Thomas who in turn had an Edward. If we do find the connection then the Mack family are back to 1583. I have been researching and teaching myself how to read old wills in trying to find who Henry’s father was, this search has taken me to Salthouse and Runton. Hence my e-mail to you, I am interested in all information on Mack’s as to find ours I have had to sort out some of the other Mack families but which ever Mack family path you take I am sure they are all leading towards Salthouse and Runton because of the family names. Being mainly Thomas Henry Richard, Robert and John. In researching Salthouse I was extremely pleased to find your website and behold there are some Macks in the marriages and in the 1539 marriages  there is a Richard Marr, I think this could also be a Mack as Mack then was Makk and I think the r ‘s have been mistaken for the k. If you have any other details on either of these 2 items I would be very glad to hear from you are any other Mack info from Salthouse.

The information was fantastic and I immensely enjoyed reading about Salthouse, I am in Norfolk in October and look forward to visiting the area.

63

October 1798

William MASH

Cley

Anne MACK

Salthouse


Ann Purdy
Hannah Purdy

  31st year of Henry VIII (1539)  
Richard Marr and Alice his wife, last of April

From: Ian And Janet Keymer
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Re Salthouse PRs

Good morning Val, I have checked all the existing copies of the Salthouse PRs, namely ATs and Bishops Transcripts, as follows:- ATs - Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1686,(Missing 1687), 1688-90,(Missing 1691), 1692-93, (Missing 1694-1706), 1706-07, (missing 1708- 09), 1710-15,(Missing 1716-18), 1719-20, (Missing 1721), 1722, (Missing 1723-28), 1729-31, (Missing 1732-34), 1735-43, 1744-46, (Missing 1747-48), 1749-52, (Missing 1753), 1754-55, (Missing 1756-57), 1758-59, (Missing 1760), 1761-62, 1763-73, 1774-1812. Baptisms only 1813-1949.Marriages 1755-1836, (?Missing or none in 1837-1838), 1839-1909. Banns 1780-1949. Burials 1817-1886.Bishops Transcripts:- Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1698, 1705-06, 1708-09, 1790-91, 1776-77, 1784, 1793, 1800, 1805, 1812, 1813-1816  1830, 1831, 1832, 1816, (BTs exist for 1812-51, but I have not searched them).I have sent you all these dates in case they might be of help to others. I cannot guarantee that all the ones listed as missing, are in fact missing. In many cases it was difficult to decipher the precise dates, in spite of the fact that I examined the original documents.  My main interest in the restored PRs are for the dates that I have recorded as missing after 1730.  At the moment genealogy will have to take a back seat, because I am struggling with the final draft of my book. I don't need to remind you of the problems that that involves!  
Best wishes, Ian.

From: "Watts, Jenny - NRO"Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Second Salthouse register

Dear Val,

Hope that you're keeping well, and not getting bored with no exhibitions to plan and organize!
I have some good news about the second Salthouse register. Antoinette has finished working on it and we have managed to copy all of it, except for a few pages at one end, which were in extremely bad condition. As well as microfilming it, Antoinette took digital photographs of each page, which have come out really well. Since areas around the edges of the pages are missing, many entries are incomplete, but apart from the first page, the writing is generally clear and legible. The only puzzling thing is the lack of marriages. I only found two and there must have been more than that between 1713 and 1755, when the new marriage register starts.

We have printed off an A3 copy of the register, which I have just put into the searchroom, where it is shelved with the parish register transcripts in the microform section, along with the hard-copy of the first Salthouse register. I am posting you a disk of the images, as we thought you would like a copy for Salthouse.

In case you get asked about the Kelling registers, I have filled out a conservation card for them, and I am hoping that Antoinette may be able to clean the second register in due course, provided it is robust enough. We would then hope to microfilm it and make a colour digital copy, like the second Salthouse volume. Unfortunately, the first Kelling register is really beyond even Antoinette's skills at present, though perhaps something may be possible if conservation techniques develop further in the future.

I have given it 'A' priority in the list of documents awaiting conservation, since several people have expressed an interest in it.

I also include a copy of the new description of the register in our catalogue. click here to read this

Jenny.

From: Jillgirdlestone
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: Girdlestone Family

Hi Val I was catching up on the new look web site which looks great and came across a message from Patricia Millership.  In my search for my husbands family - Girdlestone (who are believed to be connnected to the John of Kelling - one connection still to prove) I have come across information on Patricia's side.  If you would like to pass my email address to her then I will gladly share what information I have.  All the best
Hi Jill, I will gladly give you Patricia's address, it's lovely to be instrumental in connecting people! Hope it's OK to put your message 'up'. Glad you like the new format.As you may know tiscali is having trouble with spammers and therefore this email to you may be slow in coming! Many thanks for your message 
Val
Jill
From: Patricia Millership
To: salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Girdlestones of Holt

Hi Val,
Have been reading your web site with interest what a lot of work has gone into it!
I myself started researching my husbands and my own family trees about 5 years ago,he is descended from a line of Girdlestones who until recently I believed were from the John Girdlestone/Mary Ebden line. Liza Daly and myself passed many e-mails the other night at the same time I was delving through my old research and getting some new census info when I found that the link I had through Charlotte Girdlestone b 1861 was not the right Charlotte and the one to our line was b 1855!
Our line now seems to go:
 
William Girdlestone b1755 Holt m Anne Balders in1776 who produced
 
William b 1780 Holt(A Tailor in 1841 census) m Martha Humphries in1806 who had
 
George b1811 Holt(Agricultural labourer in 1841) m Mary Ann Dougherty who had
 
Charlotte b1855 North Walsham m Robert Hewitt in 1876 who had
 
Matilda Ellen Hewitt in 1896 who is my hubbys nan.
 
I have found a lot of info on these births from Dave Addys site and have mailed him also (no reply as yet).
I would appreciate it greatly if you had any more info you may be able to pass on, I understand that the Girdlestones seem to originate from 2 families one in Salthouse and one in Kelling have you any ideas were the Holt Girdlestones come from??
Thanks in advance,
 
Pat Millership
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: SURNAMES OF SALTHOUSE FOLK

Hello there. I've just come across your website and what a joy it is. So very cheery. I have just found the 1861 census in which a very distant relative says she is from Salthouse. Her name was MARY ANN LARKINS. Is Larkins a common local name and is there anything you could tell me about such families. I'd would be very grateful for anything you could tell me. Very many thanks.
Brenda (Silver)
 
From: talktalk2
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:16 PM
Subject: Jarvis family

Hi Val,   I’ve received a couple of photos from my Dad’s cousin and I thought you might like copies for your Salthouse history records.  The first is of the miller John Dewing Jarvis, his wife Sarah Perfrement and their four youngest children, Edward, David Parlett, John Dodman (my g grandfather) and Georgiana.  Judging from the age of the children I’d guess the picture was taken in around 1858 or 59.  Strange to think that little David grew up to find himself sheltering on the top floor of the mill during the ‘Great Rage’ of 1897.   I’ve also attached a photo of the shop that Georgiana used to run.  This was taken in 1931 by Kathleen (Ina), one of John Dodman’s daughters.  Her son Neville says his mother told him that if you stood looking at the mill with your back to the sea then the shop could be seen under the left-hand sail.  I’ve been trying to cross-reference that with the photos on the Norfolk mills website taken in 1910 and 1912 and you can certainly see a cottage of the correct chimney and window configuration which appears to face seawards at the end of Cross St .   Comparing it with the film I took a few weeks ago I wondered if it was the peach/salmon-pink-coloured cottage that still stands on the main road.  The windows and doors have been moved of course but it looks similar in size and shape.  What do you think?   Dad and I really enjoyed our brief visit to Salthouse in April.  We were immensely impressed with the display in the church and would like to thank you for the time you spent chatting with us and making us feel part of it all.   I hope you like the photos, I’ve sent copies to my cousin Alison and also to Margaret Pope as I know she is descended from Edward Jarvis.   Very best regards,   HERE are Janines pictures: CLICK HERE

Janine.

From: Betty Dobson
To: salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Pooley/Pratt
Hello Val,
 
Since I first visited your fantastic website in December 2006,I cannot keep away.  
I last wrote to you on 19th Dec 06 re: Sophia Pooley who was my 3xG.Grandmother & from Salthouse.  
Sophia was the daughter of James Pooley & Mercy Pratt,who married 18th Jan 1799.  
Is there anyone who can help me find out who were the parents of James Pooley and/or Mercy Pratt.  
I have trawled through the site records & cannot find anyone else with those surnames who could be possibles.  
Very interesting to find Mercy, named as Massa in the census records for Salthouse, and also to see that she was the cook for Robert Purdy-farmer.
 
Can you also tell me anything about W.Girdlestone who is named as the person who baptised James & Mercy's children according to the site records.The reason I ask is that I have a Charlotte Girdlestone married to Edward Bone/Bunn -Blacksmith & they had a son   William.b.1811. I think Charlotte & Edward lived in Holt.
try this > www.salthousehistory.co.uk/girdlestones.html to see the Girdlestones, (several of which were rectors of Salthouse/Kelling).
As I live abroad & no longer able to visit places my ancestors lived in UK,any help is really appreciated.
 
Kind Regards
Betty

From: Fred High
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Congratulations on the Exhibition

Hello Val Thank you for all the photos of the exhibition, they and the exhibition look wonderful. Well done. I would have liked to have made the trip and been there but unfortunately just don't have the time this year. Hope you are having fun and perhaps now the preparation for the exhibition is finished you may have time for your other interests. Thanks again All best wishes 
Fred 
Hello Fred, How nice of you!  And good to know you've seen what I finally managed to put online, having ignored the website for so long!It has been super at the exhibition for me meeting a lot of people who correspond with the Salthouse site turning up at the exhibition and I am able to put faces to lots of people who were only names to me before.  A lot of people have seen your photo on the High tree which was built from your research. It really has been a great success and all sorts of connections I didn't know about have been revealed too. Kind regards and thanks for all your wonderful research on the Highs which enabled me to make the tree on display in the church! 
Val
To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Edith High

> Hi Val,
>
> Great website. I thought you might like to know that I am the granddaughter
> of Edith High and William Henry Martin Browning so you can delete the query
> that you have in your records.
>
> I  am the daughter of Sydney Edward Browning and Ethel Isabel Smithyes and I
> have a brother David Edward Browning. I am married to Larry Brooks and my
> brother is married to Jeanette Daisy Parks. We both have children.
>
> My husband has done a lot of family history searching over the years and we
> were delighted to come across your site as well as Fred High's detailed
> records today.
>
> If you would like any more information, do not hesitate to get in touch.
>
> Yours
>
> Ruth Christine Brooks
>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: Salthouse History Website

Val, I've been meaning to reply on a technical issue, but have only just been prompted by receipt of an email. I was going to ask you to remove my email address from my email signature that you published on your web site. The reason for this is that there are automated processes available to criminals that automatically trawl the web for email addresses. These are then used to send out apparently personal emails from fraudsters. On my web site, the only email address I publish is webmaster@thehighs.org.uk. Emails I receive to this address are then treated with the utmost caution. I have just had my first scam email to michael@thehighs.org.uk, which broke through my span filter as the rules are not as severe as those for the webmaster address. As you will see from the attached copy of the email, you received a copy, as did Fred High.  Would you please remove my email address from your web site. If you find that many of the email addresses on the attached message are not on your web site but are in your personal contacts list on your computer, there is a possibility that your computer is infected with a virus. To check this out, make sure that your anti-virus programme has the latest updates and then run a full scan of your machine. Please forgive me if you are a technical wizard and I am teaching my metaphorical grandmother to suck eggs! Best wishes

Michael High

Dear Michael, 
I am so sorry about your scam mail. I was unable to open your enclosure I'm afraid - I was told it was 'not a valid web-archive'.  I did a full system scan on my computer last night and the result was zero, virus, spyware or anything at all. I am now goingto try to find all the instances of your address on the website! to eradicate them.
What was the message on the greetings message?  I do get messages which I simply delete without opening. Thank goodness my computer is absolutely clear according to the latest Norton.  Many of those address are on my message page but some I don't recognise. Thanks for your concern. I have left your website address still on the messages page - is that OK? All the best 
Val
Hi Michael Thanks for sending me the con-man letter! -- How funny!!  I actually collect these! I find them so funny. I print them out and have them in a folder when I'm not too busy!!  They are quite harmless fishing for suckers, who, when they are nearly going to get thousands of dollars into their hands, become willing to pay a couple of hundred pounds to facilitate matters and then find that they hear no more.  These con people also try it with holiday bookings wanting to book and then send a huge amount of money that will be for expenses while in England or some such.  Have a good day. What a shame you'll just miss seeing this Exhibition in Salthouse in March and the huge family tree! 
Val
From: "John H Walker" <J.H.Walker@leeds.ac.uk>To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:09 PMSubject: Charlotte Pigott and John Willaim High

Hi there
I have just found your wonderful Salthouse web site. My mother always wanted to visit Salthouse to see if she could find out anything about her mother's family history. Sadly she died before miracle of the internet could provide such riches.
My mother was the daughter of Lottie High daughter of Charlotte (born Pigott) and Jack (John William).
I attach a picture taken which includes Lottie on the left, then her mother Charlotte. I think the shorter of the two gents is John William High but maybe its the other chap. Lottie married Tommy Thomas, a self made man in Middlesbrough who was for a time chairman of Middlesbrough football club.
The photo is interesting because it looks as if it was taken at the same time as your picture of Balaklava Cottage - same people, different view?
best wishes
John

You are right! it is the same people in the two photos. Click on the thumbnails to see full size

To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:39 AM
Subject: Salthouse Jarvis's

Hello Val I thought you might be interested in this cutting and photo of John Dodman Jarvis (John Dewing Jarvis's youngest son; David Jarvis's brother - both referred to on your site). After completing his teaching apprenticeship at Cley, John settled in the North East.  His son, John Dewing junior, also went on to be a teacher. Best wishes, 
Alison

To see Alison's photo full size click on the first thumbnail photo>

and for the cutting, click on this one>

From:
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: Salthouse History Website

Dear Val, Just a note to say how much I am enjoying sampling the treasures on the website. I very much appreciate the hard work you must be putting in to it. I am another member of the High family who started out vaguely aware that my ancestors came from Norfolk. Through the internet, I became aware of the work of Fred High, who turns out to be a second cousin once removed (and living in Australia). So thanks to your site I am now able to see where my ancestors came from as it is now, look at the maps as it was then and learn all sorts of interesting background information. I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Regards,
Michael High

E-Mail
Home Page http://www.thehighs.org.uk

From: betty dobson
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:29 PM
Subject: Visit to Salthouse website & info.

Hello Val, I could not contact you via Outlook Express so I apologise.First of all may I say what a fantastic site.Just browsing your site gave me information I have been searching for. In my tree I have Sophia Pooley c.1808 daughter of James Pooley & Mercy Pooley nee Pratt all born Salthouse. My search originated through my mothers family of Olleys all in Holt,Norfolk,with a connection to the Pooleys via the Bunn family. I have noticed that in your messages there is Susan Bunn who has enquired about the Pooleys. When I visited your fabulous site I also read about James Olley,a fantastic character & maybe another of my ancestors.My 2x Great Grandfather was James Olley born Stody,Norfolk c.1826. Marriage to Eliza Knowles 29.Jan 1858 @ The Parish Church Hunworth. I am now wondering if my James Olley is the same one on your website. Cheers & Merry Christmas  
Betty Dobson
From: Jillgirdlestone
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: girdlestone family tree

Hi I am trying to tracing my husbands family tree - his name is Karl Girdlestone.   So far we have traced back to a Robert Drake Girdlestone of 1833 in Norfolk.  We know he was a master miller in 1871 and married a Anna Elizabeth Gravlin of 1834.  They had a son John Corbett Girdlestone on 21/03/1876 who is my husband Great Grandfather.  Would this be the same family as the one you have searched. Any help you can give us would be greatly appreciated. 
Jill Girdlestone nee Harrowing
From: "sheilagh norfolk" <sheilaghnorfolk@hotmail.com>To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:29 PMSubject: Elsy

Hello Val I was reading the previous messages from families connected to
Salthouse and came across a letter from a ARNOLD ELSY /GLEN MATTHEWS where it was mentioned that a book was in the process  of being written about the ELSY  family. Do you know whether that book was ever published
     Sheilagh

To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: Salthouse History Website

Just had to let you know that I think your website is absolutely brilliant.  I came across it purely by accident but what a treasure trove.  I have traced several people I am almost certain are my ancestors and reading about the history of Salthouse has given me a fascinating insight into the place where they lived. I have found several names in the baptisms, burials and MI's and I now know my Great Great Great Great Grandmother was buried in St Nicholas Churchyard.  I have even discovered there is a Grouts Lane in Salthouse - the family name I am researching is Grout. A lot of hard work has obviously gone in to transcribing records and providing all the information you show and I for one very much appreciate it. I will continue to look from time to time to see if you have any new information. 
Hilary Neal 
From: carl thurston
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:47 PM
Subject: norfolk history site

Hello ValWhat a fantastic site,Ive spent 5 years looking for a marriage (proudfoot and thurston) from Sharrington and Cley and 5 mins into browsing your marriages in salthouse up it comes!!Fantastic. I was wondering if you know wether Honor Jones site norfolk history is still up and running,I cant seem to access it.Any ideas. 
Thanks again Carl Proudfoot-Thurston
From: Shirleystaithes
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:41 PM
Subject: marriage
Hi 
    I grew up in Kelling  and I am on one of the Kelling School photos . My marriage to Robert Bone in 1960 was held at Salthouse church because Kelling church was being repaired . I beleive you interveiwed my mother Sheila Harrison who lived in Kelling but now lives in Holt where will I find that interview ?  If you extend your research to Kelling I may be able to help you

regards  SHIRLEY HARRISON  { that was }

Hi Shirley,I did have a lovely talk with your mother but mostly we looked at photos and identified people .  I had to type her name into the 'search' (on the left on my home page) to find where she had got to!! (which you could have done) - but if you go to the Kelling school page ( www.salthousehistory.co.uk/kelling-school2.html) then click on the small picture on the right near the top with the title under it saying The master in this group is Mr Ridley and then click on the text that says click here for a memory  of Mr Ridley's discipline   and that takes you to the little bit I quoted from your Mother!  You can also see a bit from her friend Ellen Nurse if you click on the 1932 picture which I think she gave me.

Val

 

To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:52 PMSubject: Salthouse History Website

Just had to let you know that I think your website is absolutely brilliant.  I came across it purely by accident but what a treasure trove.  I have traced several people I am almost certain are my ancestors and reading about the history of Salthouse has given me a fascinating insight into the place where they lived.

 I have found several names in the baptisms, burials and MI's and I now know my Great Great Great Great Grandmother was buried in St Nicholas Churchyard.  I have even discovered there is a Grouts Lane in Salthouse - the family name I am researching is Grout. A lot of hard work has obviously gone in to transcribing records and providing all the information you show and I for one very much appreciate it. I will continue to look from time to time to see if you have any new information. 
Hilary Neal 
Thanks so much Hilary! - Val
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: Girdlestone of Haleswoth

Hi, I have just visited your Girdlestone web site as I am trying to identify the origins of William Girdleston Of Halesworth and Earsham. possibly the son of James & Sarah, again possibly married Norwich 1758 it has been suggested to me they originate from the Holt line do you have any information on them please with many thanks
Ray Whitehand
From: Joy Davies
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: new email address.

Hello Val

It has been a while since I visited your site. I have had to take a break from the family history research as it was taking over my life.! But I`m back.!
Hope you are well.
I was really interested in Julia Pitchers message but did she mean to say "Charles` father, Ernest was my fathers (David George) father."?
 or am I reading it incorrectly. I would like to hear from her.Many thanks once again for a fantastic site.

Yours sincerly Joy Davies (nee Rowe) 

To: roseofshon@yahoo.com Cc: salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk ; jjh@onetel.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Forsdick Family History

Hello Sharon
 Your enquiry about the Forsdicks has been passed to me to see if I can help you - I help co-ordinate the efforts of several 'Forsdick Hunters' from around the world and have data on a large number of Forsdicks originating from Suffolk and Norfolk in the UK. I can't immediately trace your George William F or Albert George F from your description although these names are common in parts of the family. If you could send me full details on your Forsdicks - any names, siblings, dates, places that you have, even if it is only family rumour - and I would be happy to run a search of UK census returns etc and see if we can place you in our tree. Regards
    Chris Peers
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:57 PMSubject: "Forsdick" familly
Val what a lovely and interesting web page you have created.I am related to the Forsdicks from Norfolk George William Forsdick ( I don't know his dates) he was a master Outfitter, 33 Hight street Grays, country of Esses Englandmy grand father was Albert George born 1/8/1882 Nantwich immagrated south africa,maybe related to Friday forsdick> can you help. I live in South africa.Keep up the good work.
Sharon Meier (Ne' Forsdick)
From: Julie Pitcher
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Christianna High

Hi Val,

Just had to send you many thanks for the fantastic website,I had a photo of a husband and wife from the Kendle side of my family and was able to confirm it to be Christianna and Charles through the photo of her that you have posted on the website.I have only very recently started to compile my family tree and have found the information from Daphne Nobes' tree very helpful indeed.It was good to read the emails from Sandra Fishwick and Joy Davies you can almost feel the family connections through the emails.

Christianna High was my Great Grandmother through marriage to Charles Kendle.Charles' father,Ernest was my fathers {David George} father.If anyone can give me any information at all it would be much appreciated.Many , many thanks

Julia Pitcher {nee Kendle}

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:23 AM

 Hello Val, I have been looking at the Salthouse history site and would like to ask your opinion please. I have traced my family PEGG back to Holt area in the 1800's and also MARIA WOODHOUSE (who married George Pegg), she came from Kelling. Could you tell me if there is any connection with the Salthouse Pegg's and Woodhouse's. Is there anywhere I find more information. I look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards,
Angela Welch
From: "Odonohue" To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:45 PM
Subject: My great grandmother Ivy NIghtingale

Hello

I am 12 years old and am looking for information and photos of my great
grandmother Ivy Nightingale my grandad told me that she was a performer and
Very popular but I cant find her its probally because I don't know a lot
about reasearch on the computer but I would really like to know more! My
grandad doesent have any photos of her so
If you could find one ide be verry grateful! Thank you.

Dear Beth, I have sent you several photos of Ivy Nightingale and if you click on this link, you can see her sitting on her mother's knee! www.salthousehistory.co.uk/famselina.html

Beth O'Donohue

                                               
From: andy upton
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:07 PM
Subject: LM 720

HiI am trying to find out more information on the crash of LM 720 into the Radar mast on top of Bard hill. I first saw the mast base and generator room (Or Stand by set house as it is known) about 25 years ago when, as an Army cadet on annual camp at Holt, we marched to Salthouse heath and camped there. I remember wondering at the time about these building all alone up on the heath but, at that time, it was as far as my interest went. About 3 years ago Flypast had a picture of an airman from Coltishall placing a wreath on the pylon base and it aroused my interest again. I have since been to the RAF Museum at Hendon to view the reports on the accident and have had some information from a Radar museum about the actual site. Do you know of anyone who remembers the event or even better any photographs of the whole radar site before and after the accident. I have seen the photo of the tower after the Lancaster had hit it and would be very interested in any photographs before the crash. Many thanks, 
Andy Upton.
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Salthouse CD

Hello Val,

This is an excerpt from the latest message from Senior Archivist Jenny Watts of the NRO concerning the now readable 'Buried Records' from the Salthouse Register of 1538 -1713 which are on microfilm at the NRO, and will be available eventually in digi-photographic form on CD.


Thank you for your email. I was going to contact you today to let you know that the microfilm of the register is now available in the NRO searchroom (reference MF/RO 673/3). There should be a short piece in our next NRO Newsletter publicising this. A slight drawback with the film is that it is not in strict page number order, since each sheet of parchment has been filmed as one frame. This is because we were concerned that the amount of additional handling necessary to film in strict page number order might result in damage to the register pages, even inside the trantec sheets.  I think that people are going to find the CD much clearer and easier to read, and that once the CD is available the film will act more as a preservation copy than an access copy. We would certainly like to have a CD available for the public in the searchroom and if you are happy, we might print out a copy from the CD for consultation also. We will not, of course, make the CD or any printout from the CD available to the public before it becomes commercially available in May. -----
From: Jean Jeggo
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: Emailing: Memorial at Glandford Church

Dear ValI was having a bit of a tidy up and came across this photo. It is in the vestry of Glandford Church and was taken quite a long time ago. I have never thought much about the other names on the memorial but now that I have a subscription to Ancestry I have been able to look at some of them. I believe the Arthur Holman to be the one on your Holman Tree born in 1878 son of Isaac and Ann (Ives). The age on the 1901 census fits and they are both bricklayers.It occurred to me that the people researching the Holman family may not know about this memorial as the vestry is normally kept locked so it goes un-noticed. Perhaps you could be so kind as to forward it to them.I realise that I now have 2 people on this memorial who are on my family tree. My software calculates that Arthur was Constance's Cousin.I have also seen a picture of the church before they did the work on it. It was in a very ruinous state so there was a tremendous amount of work to do on it. I expect the work was a godsend to the workers although rumour has it that Sir Alfred Jodrell didn't always pay them promptly!Best Wishes
Jean

This is the image Jean attached to her message

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To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: revamped website
Dear ValSorry it has been a while since I have been in touch. I am really impressed with the updated website-what a treasure trove it is.I have not forgotten that I promised to send you (and Fred among others) the family tree of Emma High Kendle and James Richard Bunnett, my great-grandparents. I have a new PC and if someone can send me an idiot's guide as to how ged.com works I would be eternally grateful! I don't want to lose all my data by mistake!!! The data is in Family Historian2.I'm sure someone out there (possibly a distant relative?) can help. regards
Sandra Fishwick

message for PAUL ALLEN: your email address doesn't work any more!
and Jenny Adams, who has researched all the DACK family data on this site,
would like to contact you about your 4x Great grand father John Dack

To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Jarvis Family

Dear Val:I have just come across your wonderful site as I was researching into my own "Jarvis" history.  I have found a posting from 26 August 2004 from 'Margaret' which references an Edward Jarvis b. March 1848 who is her great-grandfather.  I think, but am not positive, that this may be my great-great-grandfather.  I have found entries in the British 1881 Census that has Edward listed as the Head of household for 22 Kent Terrace in Southcoates, York, England, along with his wife Catherine and three children.  As there is some confusion as to when my great-grandfather David Parllett Jarvis was born (dates range from 1879 - 1882), he may not have been listed on the census as he was not yet born.  I am curious if Margaret knows Catherine's maiden name as my family resources have it recorded as Norman and it would confirm that this is the Edward Jarvis and Catherine Norman that I'm looking for. Thank you in advance for your assistance & keep up the wonderful work on your site!Sincerely,Deborah JarvisBurlington, Ontario
I have forwarded your message to Margaret and I'll be most interested to hear if she can help. Maybe David Parlett Jarvis' baptism will be found in the Salthouse 'Buried Records' when they are readable - as they will be very soon. Parlett is also a Salthouse name.
Canada
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:59 AM
Subject: re James Olley - Balaclava Cottage

Hello Val, You may recall I mailed you a couple of weeks ago concerning this gentleman who features on your site and that I advised he died in our village back in the 1920's.....at another Balaclava Cottage!On a trip out yesterday we were in Salthouse and I spoke to the very Scottish 'Mac' who owns Mac'sPlaice. Asked him if he knew the location of the cottage but he hadn't heard of it - presumably name changed frequently since.Can you tell me which house it is in the villlage and where it's located. Many thanks.Incidentally, last week I spoke to a friend in Elsing whose grandfather was present at James Olley's funeral at which a twenty one gun salute was given!Regards. 
Anthony Smith

James Olley's house is the one to the left of the post office, now called Marsh Cottage.Here it is in the early 1900s about the time he was living there and called it Balaclava Cottage.

Read about his experience of the Charge of the Light Brigade click here


To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: The Dix family

Hi Val,My mother also Charlotte was one of the seven children of Charlotte and Samuel Dix. She had three brothers Sidney and Thomas who were killed in the first world war and Sammy. Also three sisters Elsie Alice and Margaret. To my knowledge there was no Edie.I think the third person in the photo is Elsie.One of my memories of visiting Salthouse as a child was going to a party at the rocket house possibly th VJ day celbrations.
June Belton

see the pictures June is referring to click here
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:49 PM
Subject: The Dix family

Hi Val,
Thank you for your lovely reply to my email, with that and your fantastic web site I feel I am getting to know something of my grandmother’s life (she died before I was born).

As a child my visits to Salthouse where quite rare, though we lived just twelve miles away, travel was not so easy in those days. I remember the occasional day trip to see my Aunt Elsie and Uncle Sammy in their cottage on Bard hill and Aunt Alice and .Uncle Walter at the Dun cow. In the afternoon when the pub was shut we would sit in the bar (the only one at that time) which fascinated me because children weren’t allowed in pubs then.

Have attached two photos one of Elsie and one of Sammy they are not in very good condition so I don’t know if you will want to put them on the website.            

Thanks again
June

Here are the photos click on them to see them larger

From: paul allen
To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:04 PM
Subject: Dack family

just a quick hi, looking in to the history of the dack family and it interesting to see Matthew Twite Dack, it turns out that his farther Thomas Dack 1793  and my 4x Great grand father John Dack 1796  were brothers 

regards Paul

To: valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:59 PMSubject: James Olley

Dear Val,

I'm doing some personal research into Mill Street, Elsing where I live and have come across this gentleman in connection with his final resting place.The information is essentially anecdotal and briefly is as follows:James Olley lived at Balaclava Cottage here in Mill Street (now known as Riverview Cottage) where he died. His body was taken by gun carriage from his home to Elsing churchyard where he is apparently buried; unfortunately the exact burial spot cannot be found.Can you please tell me, if you know, or are aware, whether this can be corroborated in any way? It could be that a few Norfolk villages may lay claim to this sort of information reading between the lines but I've no real reason to doubt its authenticty.Many thanks for your assistance; I look forward to hearing from you soon. 

Anthony Smith, Mill Street, Elsing

Dear Anthony,
How interesting! I had no knowledge of where he ended up and thank you very much for your letter.
Salthouse's connection with James Olley can be seen here, but I can't offer any more info on him.
Best regards
Val

From: "CHRISTOPHER POPE" <chrismar@btinternet.com>To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:02 PMSubject: Jarvis

I have just looked on the Salthouse site after a few months researching other lines and found the grave stones which have recently been "unearthed".
It was great to see John Dewing Jarvis and his wife Sarah Ann and possibly her parents Samuel and Susanna Perfrement.

Can anyone confirm these were her parents?  Let's have more Jarvis descendants leaving messages, the Highs are very much in prominence I see.

Regards

Margaret

To: Val Fiddian Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Dacks, Pooleys

Dear Val
I enjoyed staying in Salthouse, back to "my" roots somewhat I guess, it was nice knowing family members used to live there and being able to walk past their door so to speak made the research come alive a little more!I have processed all the info I found at the record office and the graveyard at Salthouse into the Dack family tree programm, I now have a huge list of people to find in the census returns from Holt, Stody and Salthouse from 1851-1901.I have contacted Susan Bunn re the Pooley connection, she was able to tell me that she had seen and knew of James Pooley but had never been able to connect him to the family, the few bits that I found now tie up with what she had, in fact on the internet (IGI) I found James Pooley (of Salthouse born c1773) married in Salthouse on the 18/01/1799 Mercy Pratt (of Salthouse born c1777), unfortunately no parents listed for either person, i also found another daughter born in Kelling on the 30/01/1812 and bapt 02/02/1812 in Kelling called Mary Ann Pooley, perhaps the Pooley's moved from Salthouse to Kelling for a time before moving back in 1815 in time for Hannah Pooley's baptism.Oh well more mysteries to check out!Have a wonderful summer, take care

Jenny

From: stephen.mcgarry To: <valfiddian@salthousehistory.co.uk>Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 3:23 PM
Subject: James Olley

I read with interest the details of James Olley on your site ..
I wondered if you had any of his genealogy. I am decended from a John Olley & Jemima Lake who lived in Newmarket and I am trying to establish a connection !

Regards
Steve
From: Fred High
To: Val Fiddian Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:33 PM
Subject: High Tree Update

Hello Val There have been so many queries, corrections and additions to the descendants of William and Hester High I have decided to send you an update as I am now getting emails from viewers of your website commenting on the same errors or omissions. Hopefully by sending you the latest version it will help your viewers as well as reducing the emails to yourself and myself regarding queries on the family members. From the weather chart it appears a nice warm day in Salthouse today - enjoy it. Best regards 
Fred
To: Fred High Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Re: High Tree Update
Hello Fred, Thank you very much for the latest tree which I have gratefully put up in place of the previous. Hope I've covered all the places where it was accessible Yes it was a sunny day! we deserved it - it has been foul recently!Many many thanks 
Val
to see the amended tree click here

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:55 AM
Dear Fred and Val

I have recently chanced upon the Salthouse Website while looking for the Salthouse book (which I understand is out of print - I shall have to make do with a library copy) - My mother was born in Salthouse as was my Great Grandmother Ann High. It is an excellent site and makes very entertaining visiting.

Re the High family tree I think there are a couple of errors that perhaps need checking.

The entry 4 - Charles High (old eggie) b 14 Dec 1823 appears to still be alive on the 1901 census on the website so presumably then did not die in 1894 as per the tree?

His "daughter" Sarah Ann High b 1861 and married to John Dew - according to the census she is the daughter of Henry High and not Charles High ?

In place of Sarah Ann should be Ann High (my great grandmother) who went on to marry Samuel Chatten in Tasburgh (I have her birth and marriage certificate copies) and she is buried in Tendring Church yard in Essex (as is Samuel but since he died about 40 years before Annie his grave is not marked - it must have been a struggle for her with 6 children under 10 and neither near her family in Salthouse nor his family around Tasburgh and the surrounding villages)

According to the census another daughter of Charles, Mary came after Ann.

Since my grandmother, Ann's daughter Amy Chatten (my grandmother) was born and brought up in Tendring it is a bit odd that she went to Salthouse to give birth to my mother - but my Grandfather Albert Lewis, Amy's husband was still in the navy at this time (1928), so presumably Ann took Amy back to her family in Salthouse, presumably to a sister of hers as her mother would have been long dead by then.

Thanks very much for the info posted on the website - I think it is a fantastic project - and I hope the info above helps Fred to tidy his tree - he can check the census on the website and see if he agrees.

Thanks again
PS from Val:
Mistakes in the Salthouse Highs may be my fault not Fred's - since I think I supplied him with the bit about 'Old Eggie' which came from Jim Radley originally - but he'll be keen to correct them I know!

     J
Hello John and Val

It is great to receive corrections to the High Family Tree. They are very much appreciated.

I will make the corrections. along with others, plus some additions before Val's exhibition in Salthouse next year.

Over the past couple of months I have been receiving about an email a week on the family tree, so when I make all the corrections and additions it will be somewhat different from what is on the website at this time. It is a never ending project.

Thank you again for the information you provided.

Regards

Fred High
From: "Fred High" <fredhigh@westnet.com.au>To: "Val Fiddian" <salthousehistory@tiscali.co.uk>Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 3:14 AMSubject: Re: High Family tree

Hello Val

Henry's Sarah Ann was born 28 April 1861 and married John William Dew in Salthouse 31 March 1887.

Charles's Sarah Ann was born 21 April 1852 and she married Charles Barstead on 24 Oct 1871 in Salthouse.

Charles (Old Eggie) died in Salthouse in 1908.
I have now adjusted the Family Tree to reflect these corrections.

As there have been many corrections and about 200 additions to the Family Tree shown on your website, when I finish these latest lot of additions and corrections I will forward you a copy for the website.

The majority of the additions relate to the descendants of Mary High b.1790 and William Cubitt b.1787 and married in Salthouse 14 June 1810.

There are now about 1,900 people on the tree and to draw this by hand would be a monster task, almost impossible. Besides all the old families of Salthouse are inter-related which makes the task even more difficult. Perhaps if I send you a GED file you could project the various Family Trees on a screen providing you have Family Treemaker software.

I really do appreciate the emails from people who take the time to read the High family tree and offer additional information and corrections. Besides they are in all cases relatives who I have never met or in the majority of cases didn't know existed as my research stopped primarily at about 1901 except for my direct line.

Research post 1901 is now becoming easier with the BMD to 2004 being available on line from Ancestory.com However, it is very time consuming and I have found while they claim to be complete, they are not with complete quarters of record information missing and many BMD not being recorded.

I will be in touch again when I have completed the next phase.

Best wishes and kind regards

Fred

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