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From: john.burns (again)
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:03 AM

Dear Val

I also saw this message on your site:

Hello, I am absolutely amazed at the content of this site.  I am helping a colleague trace her ancestors.
Her great grandmother was Ann High (1862-Salthouse). Daughter of Charles High and Martha Ann Hoy.
[Must be mistake for Moy] Ann High married Samuel Chatten  and they had 4 sons, 3 of which died  in WW1.
Your site has been extremely helpful. Thank you.
Janis Mahoney

Can you pass on a message to who-ever posted that message:

Ann High (Annie as she was called) had 5 sons and 1 daughter - of those 5 sons 3 did indeed die during the first world war and are commemorated on the Tendrin War memorial - the other 2 both served in the war also I think (based on a photo of one in uniform and one in his home guard uniform with his WWI medals) - her daughter Amy was my grandmother.

If Janis needs any more info then feel free to pass on my Email address

Thanks again


From: "jean marshall"
To: val
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: re website.
Thankyou for your excellent site.
I have browsed several times, my husband's Gt.Grandmother was Elizabeth Moy from Salthouse and moved to the north of England.
Have seen her picture together with 2 of My husbands late uncles Wesley and Sidney Bullen.
There are still Bullens in Northumberland from this line.
from Jean Marshall.Essex.          

   Dear Jean     That's wonderful you spotted your husband's Great Grandmother, Elizabeth Moy, and uncles -- I knew nothing about them ! Can you give any further information? Regards Val

Ian Watson
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:23 PM
Subject: Salthouse family names


Thanks for the information on your site.
With regard to the Pigott family entry:

Robert (1718-1797) m. Ann Porter (1729-1757) they lived in Southery.
his son William (1768-1845)

This implies that William was born after his mother had died. So is one of the dates wrong?



Dear Ian,
I've been so busy I haven't had time to reply!  Isn't it extraordinary no-one has spotted that before!! I see it is like that on the original Pigott/High tree given me by Jim Radley (now deceased). It was on show like that at the 2003 exhibition in the church!  I must think who are the Pigott experts and get it corrected. Anyway thanks!
and Best regards

From: "john benno"
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:14 AM
Hi Val,
When the Salthouse book was published a few years back Kelling were interested in doing something similar,
was just wondering if any progress was made.


From: "john benno"
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:21 AM

Subject: Salthouse

Hi Val,
Forgot to add how much I enjoyed your web site brings
back 20 years of happy memories.

You may be interested in looking at my web site
I tried to record in photos the WW2 Defences pillboxes


and see below for more from John

From: "john benno"
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 9:56 PM
Hi Val,

Thanks for comments re web pages, yes all the site is my work over a number of years, parts are looking a bit dated in the layout though. Will link to yours.

I have little to add to information on the anti boat or Tank double line of stakes or the dummy airfield.
The following  books my be of interest:
click on the book to see list > click on this book!
More From: "john benno" his Website:
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Salthouse

If you walk from Salthouse to Kelling via Meadow Lane, about 50 yds before the path to The Quags, on the right is what looks like an old broken concrete pipe it is in fact a rare (only 3 known in Norfolk) pillbox known as a Norcon, it really needs preserving-

The Norcon was a small circular pillbox named after the company that manufactured it. It was made from a concrete pipe 6 feet diameter and 4 feet high with several cut loopholes. The large number of loopholes meant it was not the safest place to be but being quick to manufacture was its biggest asset, they could turn out about 20 a day the concrete being cured in about 24 hours but few were actually built. A roof made of timber and corrugated iron, and earth; extra protection as provided by the use of sandbags.

I guessed the Kelling book didn't workout which is a shame. I have your superb book.
We had a holiday cottage in Kelling from about 1982 to 2004, was nice and quiet in North Norfolk in the eighties and early nineties but think its getting too well known plus the journey from the Nottingham area with all the traffic was getting a bit of a drag, but still love the area.

I think it was Mayday bank holiday in 1992 when the chemical scare due to a road tanker washing ashore near The Quags I remember the police coming round the village telling everyone to leave as they were setting up an exclusion zone, we decided to go to a guest house in Cromer, at least one villager refused to go.
In the end I think the wind didn't actually blow the chemicals over the village. I had to call at the cottage the following day no problem at the check point, the empty village was very weird. They used to display the rear tanker cover plus newspaper clips at the Tank museum.

Subject: Fw: Glen Matthews

Dear Glen,
I just received this email from one of my website viewers. Can you help? It seems rather a long shot, and no other details . . .  
Best regards  


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:36 PM
Subject: Glen Matthews

 Hello Val,
In the part of your website "Salthouse Pigott Children" you thank Glen Matthews for the info he provided with regard to Salthouse families who moved to South Shields.I believe that my Great Great Grandma was Margaret Christianna Matthews.  Do you know if Glen is part of this Matthews family?  If so could you please pass on my email address because I would love to know if he has any info on Margarets ancestors. 


Dear Val
Unfortunately I cannot help on this occasion as my Matthews ancestors are from Northumberland. 

Best of luck Alison with your research.
Glen Matthews

From: Gerard McGowan
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:27 PM
Subject: west beckham workhouse enquiry
I have just visited this website and was delighted to find it. I visited the West Beckham workhouse three years ago and found it a very sad sight. I am very interested in my family history. I discovered my Great Grandfather, JOHN SMITHSON, was born in the workhouse in 1864. His mother was Susannah Curtis (Smithson), no father was entered on birth certificate. Have you any information on either name ?
I would be very grateful if you discovered anything to do with my ancestors.
thank you
sandra V.Mcgowan
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: west beckham workhouse enquiry
Thank you so much for replying. Please put my message up on your message page, I would be very grateful. As you say it might help!  
I live in Burnley, Lancashire but my Grandma was a "Cromer" girl. I love North Norfolk so much and When I visited the West Beckham workhouse, I felt a real connection with it and saddness too! I do hope it could be preserved one day?
thanks again
From: Chris Watson
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:13 AM
Subject: The Old Bakery

Hi Val,
We were in contact some time ago regarding my husband's DIX ancestors who, I believe, came from Salthouse.
Congratulations on your website!  You have added so much more useful information!  I haven't looked in on it recently as I have been pursuing other family lines for a while.  However, we are planning to visit Norfolk next week, particularly to do some more research on the Salthouse line and to get a better feel for the village.  Having read your excellent book and revisited the website, we now want to see where it all happened!!!
Having been trying to decide where to stay, I just noticed your self-catering accommodation on the website.  Unfortunately, we have just booked a hotel from Monday to Wednesday night.  However, I was wondering whether your accommodation might be available for one night, Thursday 13th April, please?  We would really like to spend a bit more time in Salthouse, so this would give us an opportunity to stay a night - and to visit the Crab Restaurant!  Perhaps you could email me to let me know whether this is possible, together with an indication of price, please?
By the way, we plan to spend some time at the Norfolk Record Office earlier in the week.  If there are any Salthouse records which you would like me to check for you, please let me know.
Look forward to hearing from you,
Hi Chris,
Nice to hear from you again. You are important as a DIX researcher! Next May (2007) There'll be another genealogy-minded exhibition in the church here and I'm hoping for help from various researchers to have all the main old Salthouse families represented by some sort of tree as well as a folder of notes and pictures. 
Accommodation: The Old Bakery Annex is free for that one night! - people are leaving that morning, and people are arriving the next day on the 14th! So it is possible though I have an important meeting that morning at 11am  . . . If you could wait until 2-3pm before moving in, it would all be O.K. . (My daughter will be here for the meeting and would help)  
The fee would be £30 for that one night. All linen and towels provided.  I do hope you decide to come.
Kind regards

Best wishes,

Chris Watson
From: Fred High
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:19 AM
Subject: Thanks and Change of Email Address

Hello Val 

Your website is creating a great deal of interest from many places in the world where there are descendants of the High's.
Especially over the past few months I have had contact from quite a few people interested in the history of the High family who are descendants of William and Hestor High who were living in Salthouse around 1733. These contacts have added to the family tree or made corrections or enhancements to it. Just at this time I do not have the time to fully explore all the information that has been given to me, but over the next few months I should be able to send you an update of the High Family Tree for Fred's page.
Since my last contact with you I have had a change of email address which I would like you to include in your website so that readers of your site can contact me if they wish to do so. My new email address is :  
I am really looking forward to the restoration of the Salthouse Church Records being completed and being made available on film to the general public. Hopefully when these are available later this year I will be able to connect Chistopher High 1620 to William and Hestor High who are known to have been living in Salthouse in 1733/4.
Val, thank you for all your efforts in relation to the history of Salthouse and especially for continually updating the website which is great.
Have a great Easter and I hope you have an enjoyable spring and summer
Kind regards
From: Szabo Gyula
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 6:53 PM
Subject: Salthouse

Do you remember our correspondence two or three years ago regarding my uncle, Frank Stagg?  Well, we are now in the 21st century , on-line, surfing the web etc., and I was very pleased to visit your website today, Val.  We often look through your book and wish that we were nearer  so as to be able to visit an area which has become so interesting to us.   All the best and thanks again for doing such a wonderful job .......Gwen Szabo (nee Stagg)
Gwen Szabo (née Stagg) is the neice of Commander Frank Stagg whose manuscript on the History of the Parish of Salthouse was the start of the Salthouse book published in 2003, and this website which followed it in 2004.
It was Gwen who gave permission for her uncle's work to be published together with other Salthouse material.
She lives in a remote part of Hungary, and was very hard to track down! . . . how lovely that is she now online!

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: (no subject)
I have just been looking at your site and, although I still haven not yet finished reading all of the information, I am finding it very interesting. My name is Linda Lewis, formerly Linda Girdlestone. My father, Wiliam Girdlestone was born in 1921 and lived in Wallsend, Newcastle. I am hoping this will be of some help to you?
With Kind regards,
Linda Lewis.
From: Jean Jeggo
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Lydia Ives

Hello Val - thank you for reminding me about this. I had seen it but wasn't sure whether to get in touch with Stuart. I have just worked out that my grandmother, Constance Ives, was Lydia's first cousin so I think I will get in touch.
I still check your site and have been following the progress of the registers - they are doing a great job!
Thanks again
From: sturitson
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Your pics

One thing I’ve noticed is that you already had some info on Lydia Pigott, but probably didn’t realise it.
Jeggo may wish to be informed!!. Lydia (c1870), daughter of John IVES is my Great Great Grandmother Lydia Pigott!
Hope you had a good Mothering Sunday…..don’t eat all the chocolates in one go!!!

From: sturitson
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:43 AM

 Here’s something that might interest you further. Recently my Grandmother passed away. As is the norm when these sad events occur old photos that have been hidden away come to light. Two photographs were found in a box of photos which my Great Grandmother (Margaret Pigott) left my Grandmother. Therefore we’re assuming that they are of Pigotts. 

The first one titled “possibly RRS Pigott” we’re hoping is a picture of Robert Rogers Spence Pigott. We’re basing this on two things, the age of the photo looks like early 1900’s and the fact he has a “bushy” beard – as is the fashion with Gabriel and John Pigott who feature on your website. We cannot confirm this but I’ve forward this to you in case you have seen this person on other pics and you may be able to confirm or deny he is a Pigott. 

The second photo titled “family group” is a complete mystery. Again it looks as if it’s a very old photo. The lady at the back with her hand on another ladys shoulder rings a bell with me. I’m sure I’ve seen her before somewhere but cannot think where or who she is. Again as this photo belonged to Margaret we’re assuming a Pigott connection. 

The last photo “Lydia and Children”, I’ve sent this to you in response to your last statement where you showed concerns of Lydias life, how she suffered etc. I thought it nice to show you a picture of Lydia in happier times. This is a picture of her and some of her Children. Lydia is Central to the Picture. My Grandmother Margaret is the little girl front left with her arms behind her back. Hilda May is the other little girl. The tall girl at the back is Adelaide. The boys we’ve not really studied to be honest, maybe one day we’ll try and work those out!
It looks as if my Grandmother is about six years old in the photo*, This dates it to around 1906, the year her father RRS Pigott died. The workhouse connection interest me and I would like to find out more. I believe Lydia was not connected with the workhouse for long. She ended her days living in Holt. 

Thanks for all your help, especially about Reginald, please keep in touch if you find out more, I visit your website regularly.

possibly Robert Rogers Spence Pigott


Ps……The next Pigott I’m researching will be Bertie Pigott. The story goes he drowned
in the sea of Cley. That’s all we know.


* click to see a page of Stuart's photos
(it's in the making)

From: "Christine Dawson"
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:09 PM
Subject: Dawson connections
Hi Val ,
Fabulous site . What a lot of work has gone into it. I don't have a connection with Salthouse as such but my family are Dawsons.I noticed that in the High family Jack High was married to Sabra Dawson.My gt gt grandfather Philip Dawson and his wife Mary Ann Bailey had a daughter Sabrah ,born in 1844 in Thornage and a couple of grandchildren with that name.
As it is such an unusual name I wondered if anyone knew of a connection.I have already come across two other marriages with Highs.
Regards ,
Christine Dawson

Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 1:06 PM
Subject: website

Congratulations on a wonderful web site which has provided us with much information and enjoyment. The Salthouse book likewise was extremely good value. Do you know of any Lynns in the area that are linked to Salthouse.? I would very much like to contact them.

Thank you for your attention and congratulations once more

Grahame H Lynn
see the Lynns of Salthouse page

From: Sandra Fishwick
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:07 AM
Dear Val
I have just discovered your website and I must congratulate you on its excellence. As a Norfolk girl tracing her family tree, I have roots in Salthouse and it is wonderful to meet so many of my distant relatives on-line. I am descended from Christianna High and Charles Kendle through their daughter Emma, who was my great-grandmother. The picture of Richard Joseph (Dick) High reminds me strongly of Emma's son Richard, who was also known as Dick throughout his life. I would be glad to supply you with details of this branch of the High family, as I note that you have no records of Christianna's line within the High family tree.
Sandra Fishwick (of Poringland)
(see several letters down one from Joy Davies on same subject)

From: "Lizzie Rees"
To: <>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: Another Salthouse family — the PEGGS

Dear Val,

What a wonderful website!

I have some information about another family with Salthouse connections, which I'd be pleased to share.

I'm researching my mother's family, the Peggs of Upper Sheringham. My great-great-grandfather's brother, Francis Barnaby Pegg, lived and farmed in Salthouse for some years. The 1853 Inclosure Map shows land leased by him Francis married Mary Ann Cubitt (daughter of William and Mary (High)) in
Salthouse on 18 June 1835, and they had ten children, all baptised in the village.
They were: Thomas William (b.1836), Henry Alexander Francis (b.1837), William (1839), Hannah Sarah Anne (b.1840), Barbara Mary Ann (b.1842), Susanna Elizabeth (1845-84), Marianne Francis (b.1846), Elizabeth Ann (b.1849), John Bishop Cubitt (1851-1912) and Frances (b.1854).

Hannah married Matthew Holman from Thursford at Salthouse in December 1858.

Shortly after that the family moved up to the South Shields area, settling in Westoe. Some of the men in the family were seamen, and others, including Francis, found work in chemical factories. Francis died in 1875, and his widow, who had become blind, died in 1894.

I have details of some of the family's descendants in South Shields which
I'd be happy to share with anyone to whom they would be of interest.

With all good wishes,
Lizzie Rees.
From: sturitson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: Salthouse Pigott

Good afternoon Val,

I’m writing to you , firstly to congratulate you on putting together the Salthouse website, and secondly to ask if you have come across any information regarding my line of Pigotts. I am descended from a Robert Rogers Spence Pigott. I have just returned from visiting Salthouse and have discovered his grave in the far corner of the churchyard.

He was born in 1864 and died in 1906. He married a Lydia Ives. They had 8 children, Alma, Adelaide, Bertie, Margaret, Hilda May, Frank, Alfred and William, and another son which needs clarification. His name was Reginald. Margaret, who was my great grandmother (she lived to be 99yrs old!) told me that she had a brother called Reginald who died at 3mths, however every one else of her generation dismissed this leading me to believe he may have been “illegitimate” or perhaps his early death was too painful to reminisce about.

 I would love to uncover the truth about Reginald, plus obtain any info on Robert Rogers Spence Pigott. Any info on any of the above Pigotts would be appreciated. I have linked the Gabriel Pigott who married Elizabeth Pane to my family. He was Robert Rogers Spence Pigotts uncle (John Pigotts brother).

Hilda May and Margaret both attended Kelling School. I enclose a picture of Lydia Pigott (nee ives) in case you have any pictures with her on it which could help identify more Pigotts of my family.

 If you can’t help then don’t worry, your website has helped widen my knowledge already.



From: Joy davies
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: salthouse web site
Hi Val.
Congratulations and thank you for your fantastic web-site which my husband stumbled across the other evening on searching the web. I just can`t tell you how over the moon I was to read the information on the pages and to see the wonderful old photos of my family.!
Yes! can you imagine how I felt to see actual photos of my Great Great Grandmother Hannah Pigott (who married Richard Joseph High.) and their children. I have been researching my family history for 4 years now and knew her by name only but to see the photos was wonderful.
My dearest maternal Grandmother was Mabel Rose, daughter of Christianna ( who married Charles Kendle). Christianna was one of  Hannah and Josephs` children.
Thank you to all who have shared so freely the information on the site.
We visit Norfolk every 3-4 months, and I just can`t wait to visit salthouse again.
see the page of Hanna and Richard Joseph High click here
From: Antoinette Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:12 PM
Subject: Conservation pictures - Salthouse Register

Dear Val,

I thought you might like to have a few more digital pictures of the register. I'm just about to complete the prising apart and cleaning of the last two sections, which were severely blocked together. They have come apart very well, although there is quite a bit of damage to the lower fore edge. Once they have been surface cleaned I will tackle flattening them. This is going to be quite tricky as several of the pages are extremely fragile.

I've ordered the custom made 'Trantec'  (polyester) enclosures to store the completed pages in. The pages which were in the press when you visited us in January are now ready to be placed in them.

Hope you approve of the digital pictures.
They are superb pictures to see them click here


From: johndix
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: Dix family history

Hi Val,

Just to follow up on our phone call, my name is John Dix and my great grandfather was James Leonard Plummer Dix  born on Salthouse in1858. He had three children, William Ernest (my grandfather) James and John. He was married to Mary Ann High in 1882. James LP Dix appears to have been raised by his grandparents, John and Elizabeth Dix  who were married in Salthouse in 1829 and had 9 children. I can’t seem to identify who James LP’s parents were. Strangely, in between the 1891 census and the 1901 census  Mary Ann’s spouse has changed from James LP to David Dix.  I am guessing but James LP seems to have died and Mary Ann would appear to have married David Dix, James LP’s uncle ( although they were very close in age). What a tangled web!

If there are any possible relatives out there or anyone who can help to solve some of the mysteries I would love to hear from them.

 Please let me also thank you for a wonderful website which has been so helpful in tracing my family.

 Kind regards


From: "Simon Ramm"
Cc: <>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: Ramms

Dear Bryan and Val

Just thought I would drop you a line after having my first look at the site. I spent the last week based in Wells but touring all over from Salthouse to Burnham and stopped across several churches looking for Ramms.
 We are from the Wells branch of Ramms (the Butchers/graziers in the High Street which closed in the 70s after many generations). I noticed several older Ramm graves in Cley and Wiveton which I've not seen before, all conveniently near the graveyard entrance (prime position?!).  I realise that we could be a different branch but my feeling is that it is such an unusual name and so localised to north Norfolk that there must be a (single) common ancester, possibly of Germanic origin.  A cousin of mine is going to send me a family tree very soon, and she has properly traced our Ramms back to 1715 I think so it's feasible I might be able to make some links.  For info my male line (starting with me and going backwards!) goes Simon-Peter-Charles-ArthurJames - Arthur - James (I think) and I'm pretty sure there is a direct link to at least the Cley ones (William and Mary I think)

Best wishes

to have a look at past RAMM correspondence click here


From: Belinda Lawrance
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: Salthouse Hall

What a shame your website is so out of date with regards to the hall.  We were in Salthouse this weekend and the hall has been far from neglected.  It has been a work in progress for many years but the picture you show is many years older than your website and the house has not looked so neglected for at least 10 years or so.  What a pity you have not updated the information and picture.
Belinda Lawrance

From: Val Fiddian
To: Belinda Lawrance
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Salthouse Hall

Hullo Belinda,
On my picture of Salthouse Hall entitled 'All forlorn and neglected' are the words:
Salthouse Hall stayed empty and forlorn for several years before the present owners saved it
Surely that is quite accurate and doesn't give the impression that it is still in that state!
You do sound offended and cross! My website is really a history website,though I do have a bit of News of current happenings I don't have many present day pictures.
Best regards
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From: honor jones
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: GURDELSTON [Girdlestone]

Hi Val,
Just in the middle of doing the NCC wills indices for King's Lynn and came across this one - feel sure it is related to the Girdlestone's and know that several folks on your message board are interested in that name. 1727 GURDELSTON Henry, of King's Lynn.  Folio 27 Kirke
This one could have got away due to the spelling difference.
All the best
From: "Peter Swainson"
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: The buried records

Dear Val

I have just seen the excellent report on the visit to the Record Office and approve of your remarks 100%.   It is rather sad to think that a well-meant action caused such a to-do in later years, but I am so glad that, thanks mainly to your efforts, such wonderful results are now being achieved.
By the way, does Val Fiddian feature in any of those photos of the visit ???!!!

Kind regards

I'm not in the photos because I took them! val
From: colin woodcock
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: fenn lewis

Dear Val'
I have just read the message from Des Harris about the Lewis family. I was so excited to find someone else researching this family. Samuel & Elizabeth Allen (nee Lewis) in the photo are my Great Grandparents on my mother's side.   
I have encountered several problems in researching the Lewis family.
I have a copy of Samuel & Elizabeth Lewis marriage certificate, they were married  on November 7th 1881 at the parish church of Brinton Norfolk but because neither of them could write Elizabeth's surname was  incorrectly spealt as (LOOSE).
Best wishes
Anne Woodcock
How interesting!
Click here to read the letter Anne is referring to!
From: Don Davenport
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:14 PM
Subject: Salthouse History site

I am constantly trawling local sites for interesting items - yours has proved a treasure trove and far and away the best site visited.  A great testament to you and the village you obviously love.
Thank you
Don Davenport
Thank you! Don,
From: Pete and Jan
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Humber lifeboat

Dear val
I was trawling Google and came across your excellent site. There was a message in 2004 from someone whose brother had retired as Humber coxswain but I coulnt see an email address. I am working on a book on Spurn and Kilnsea and would love to get in touch with this person if you could send me the details.
My web page is: (This link didn't work for me, but I got the site by asking Google for it)

Best wishes
Jan Crowther
Dear Jan,
I contacted Richard Jefferson, who has had a lot of correspondence with Mal Skelton about the ship which went down in the Humber. He tells me that: 
 Mal Skelton's email address:
and: He (Mal Skelton) has set up a website on H.M.S.Princess Victoria that you might like to look at:
It is very informative. This should be all you need!
Best wishes
From: Malcolm Skelton
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Website

Hi Val 
Thanks for taking the time to email - most appreciated :-)
 I've received an email from the person you were contacted by, [Jan Crowther] I'm going to try and respond to them today also.
Thanks for the compliments on the website - it is still a work in progress, something I have been meaning to do for years ( I unveiled / uploaded it on the 65th anniversary of the sinking last May ). I'm hoping to be able to record my grandad's memories and add video to the site - plus maybe a few more research breakthroughs.  

Anyway, please feel free to add a link to the website if it would be of any benefit to your regular visitors - without your help I would be still floundering. 

Thank you

Mal Skelton

From: Maureen Goffroy
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: william crathorne 1882

Dear Val

While researching my ancestors I found William Crathorne on your website but on looking through the site was unable to find any reference to him. It was mentioned that he bought holdings in 1882 but from whom or any thing else I was unable to fathom! I wonder if you could let me know any details that you may have!

in anticipation,

Hullo Maureen,
it was in the Alphabetical list of family Names on this site amongst the information about a ship owned by people named Dew in Salthouse:

1868 Susannah Dew, shopkeeper of Salthouse, was recorded in the Wells Register of Shipping as the owner of all 64 shares of a brig or brigantine called the Ionian, built at Prince Edward Island, Canada.
When Susannah died in 1878, she left 22 of her shares in the ship to William Dew, mariner of Salthouse, who was master of the ship at that time, and 42 to George Dew, labourer of Salthouse.
In 1879 George Dew transferred his shares to William John Dew of Salthouse, farm labourer, and the following year William Dew (the mariner) transferred his 22 shares to Richard Lynn, farm labourer of Salthouse.
In 1882 they sold their combined holdings to William Crathorne of Sunderland.

The above information was supplied by Mike Stammers who was lately in charge of the Maritime Museum at Liverpool and has written many articles on local shipping
From: Michael Dwyer
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:21 AM
Subject: Bullen Family

Do you have any info about the Bullen family from Field Dalling?
It was on the link – but I could not find it on your excellent site.

Michael Dwyer,
New York, USA

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:29 AM
Subject: High Family

Found it.
Bullens are listed in the High family tree.

You can use this to complete the listing.
(see below)


8 minutes later he wrote: ->




Anna Maria MIDDLETON, 3 (Mark 2, Robert 1)

Born at Morston, Norfolk about 1855; 1 married William Bullen, 2 [baptized at Field Dalling, Norfolk in 1852, the son of John and Elizabeth Bullen, 3] with whom she had children as follows: 

i.                     William C. Bullen, born about 1876. (see further)

ii.                   Henry W. Bullen, born about 1878. (see further)

iii.                  Elizabeth Anna Bullen, born in 1879. (see further)

iv.                 Walter George Bullen, born in 1881. (see further)

v.                   Ethel Emma Bullen, born in 1883. (see further)

vi.                 Florence Rosina Bullen, born in 1886. (see further)

vii.                Caroline Ellen Bullen, baptized in 1891. (see further)

viii.              Minnie May Bullen, born in 1892. (see further)

ix.                 Horace Horton Bullen, born in 1894. (see further) 

1 1861 English census, Morston, Norfolk.
2 Field Dalling parish register, transcribed by Rev. W.M. Brown, 1985.
3 Norfolk Transcription Archive website.

From: "Peter Dack's Musik" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:45 PM
Subject: Salthouse Dack Family

This is just to let you know that I have had great pleasure in reading your web-site which I stumbled over by accident when "surfing" the net looking for my family name which is Dack.

The reason for my interest in your site is that I am one of Maurice George Dack's sons. My name is Peter Maurice Elton Dack and I was born on May 15th 1949 in Maidstone, Kent.
I moved to Denmark in 1970 to study farming. I then married a Dane and settled down in Denmark, where I now work as an english and music teacher.
My father, Maurice George Dack is a son of Ernest Dack who died in 1976 in Cawston. I was most interested to see pictures of his father, (my great grandfather) and his father again, (my great-great grandfather) Matthew Twite Dack.

My wife and I have two daughters, Jeanette From Dack and Nicola From Dack,
'From' being my wife's family name. Jeanette has just given birth to a baby
girl, Sofia so we are now very proud grandparents.

You are welcome to put this letter on your web site, it may lead to me gaining further information about my family in England.

Kindest regards to you from a "Danish" Dack

Peter Maurice Elton Dack

From: "caun grego" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:50 AM
Subject: harmer family

my grandmother was edith(queenie)harmer she married fredrick beck and had a
daughter eunice (our mum) and they lived in chelsea/north kensington i know
her family came from the east sussex area any details would be appreciated

From: "Peter Swainson" <>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Salthouse History

I am Peter Swainson, the youngest son of the Rev. Charles Swainson (Rector of Kelling and Salthouse from 1930 to 1945).
I was thrilled to find your Salthouse History website and especially to see pictures of Marshall Cooke's family and Peggy Holman and many others.

Although we lived in Kelling Rectory, Salthouse was our spiritual home and we spent as much time there as we could.  We had a hut on the beach near the Rocket House and kept a canoe behind the hut in which we braved the icy waters of the North Sea!

I am now 82 and live in Bournemouth - but my heart still lies in Salthouse
and I hope to pay another visit before too long.

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Salthouse History

Dear Peter,
Welcome to Salthouse! I'm thrilled to hear from you! 
Have you seen the News item about  the Early Church Registers which, it is said, were buried in the church yard at the beginning of the war?
 The Register is now being 'conserved' by the NRO and the local press has been interviewing them (and me because the book I edited on Salthouse is paying for the renovation of those old parish records) because it is such an interesting story! Of course they are interested in wanting to know who buried them, and they've been pestering me for a photograph of the Reverend Charles Swainson - which of course I don't have!
It is really too good to be true that you should suddenly pop up!!
We have been supposing that the Rector at the time of the beginning of the war - (that is, your father!)- must have been the one to have buried these records

 Now: have you any memory of the Register being buried in the churchyard by your father? No one has any memory of it. It is only 'heresay' that it was the rector who buried them . . . but they were certainly buried  to save them, and then apparently not dug up until the 1950s.You can see that it makes an exciting story!  If you could remember helping to bury them - Oh  that would be terrific!  Although the local press has already done their article on it, the website and the Record Office would still be very interested.

users can read the EDP article: click here

From: "Peter Swainson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 1:08 PM

Hullo Val

I can't give any positive evidence, but I remember my father and a chap called Charles Linnnell  (from Holt I think) digging away in an old ruined chapel in the North West corner of the churchyard at the beginning of the war. I have no idea what they were doing. Sorry !  I'll ask my sister if she remembers anything.

I have several photos of my father somewhere - and Salthouse about that time, but I'd have to get someone to search in the loft for me and I'll send you some when I find them. It will have to be by post as I am new to computers and have'nt got a clue how to send  by email. Perhaps my daughter can help me.

If anyone remembers us, they may like to know that my sister Romie is still alive and well and lives in Yorkshire. My brother Jim lives in Albany, Western Australia - my eldest brother Chris (who built the canoe! ) was killed in Burma in 1944 with 2nd Btn. Royal Norfolk Regiment.

You may certainly include anything you like about me - I'll try to think up some more interesting facts in due course.

Best wishes

Peter Swainson

From: "Peter Swainson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:35 PM

I have spoken to my sister Romie at length this morning and she remembers well when the records were buried.  The idea was apparently cooked up, with very best of intentions I am sure, by my father and his Church Warden Commander Fred de Crespigny who lived at the Hall. They obviously thought they were doing the right thing, but did'nt realise how long those precious documents would be interred. Goodness knows what they were wrapped in.
Can I have more details please as to where and how they were re-discovered - and by whom ? Did these two well-meaning people take any steps to protect them and did they inform any other party as to what they had done ?
Commander de Crespigny went off to live in Essex and my father retired in 1945, so surely they took some steps to dig them up then. My father suffered a nervous breakdown then and spent some time in hospital before retiring to Bidborough in Kent, so possibly he forgot all about the records.

Romie thinks she may have been with him when he buried them, but as she was only about 14 at the time, she did'nt take a lot of interest !

rev Charles Swainson, rector of Salthouse 1930-45I have found one good photo of him, but my photos of Salthouse are too similar to those you have already published to be of any interest.

I am intrigued by all this !      

[click on the photo]

Best wishes

Peter Swainson

From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:46 PM
Subject: First Salthouse register

This refers to the Salthouse Parish Registers 1538 - 1812 which at the moment are "unfit for production". As a result of this work, now commencing, it is hoped that these folios -damaged during the war (see Buried Records) may be available and readable at the NRO before long.

To: Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:52 PM
Subject: Joseph Cornelius Elsy

Hi, I have started doing my family tree and Joseph Cornelius Elsy postmaster at Cley was my great great great great great grandfather.  My mother was an Elsy before she married.  I haven't managed to sort out out brothers and sisters who I can't trace directly yet but I am still trying.  Just thought I'd let you know in case we are very distantly related.  Best wishes Lynn
From: Honor Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:54 PM

Dear Val,
Just to let you know that Cley marriage index 1747 - 1811 from the parish registers are now live on  As some of the folks may well tie in with your group from Salthouse it is worth a look.
Also the wonderful article on Kelling I told you about is now in full on a section marked Articles.  Fascinating reading for those with ancestors in Kelling in the early 1900's.

All the best to you. 
To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:56 AM

Hi Val.
         I just wanted you to know that I visit your site often and never fail to be amazed at the amount of time and effort you have put into this, the whole site is absolutely amazing, I had a short visit to Norfolk this summer it was quiet fantastic walking along the streets in Walsingham and visiting the old rectory in Great Snoring. All I kept thinking was "did Elizabeth ever sit on this wall, did Robert ever walk these streets,visit that public house, did the children play on this green, it was wonderful, so wonderful that I have already booked a two week holiday for next year so that I might explore even further Kelling of course and without a doubt Salthouse.

I visit your website often and of course will carry on doing so, hope things are fine with you and yours, will keep in touch. 
                     With deep regard Elizabeth Girdlestone.

Hi Elizabeth,Thank you very much for your kind message and praise for the site  - have you been in touch before? Are you the Liz Girdlestone who sent me so much stuff? with a new email address?? Or are you a new Elizabeth Girdlestone??I'm delighted to know you visit my site often!Kindest regards
Hi Val. yes it is me the same Elizabeth Girdlestone,new pc new name, I was moving the other pc from upstairs to downstairs, the longer i was on the pc the less david saw of me so a move was the only thing, unfortunately the pc reached the bottom of the stairs long before me, although I was quite intact, the same could not be said for the poor pc, it has taken a while to save the money for a new one but at last I am back online, you have no idea how much I missed it. David Addy (click to see photos of 2 X Davids and Liz) and I have finally met, David took me to Ibiza early October, an early birthday present, and David Addy booked the same week we spent many an hour together chatting about the Girdlestones he is young only in years his knowledge will take me years to accumalate.It's really nice to be back in touch with all my friends and visit my favourite site,yours of course. Do keep in touch it is always nice to hear from you, take care   Liz xxx
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:35 AM
Subject: more Harmer information

see Peter's previous correspondence on the Harmers five letters down (all the same blue);click here to see the first letters, and click here for others of his.

Dear Val,
Another snippet of information for you, the William Harmer born at Kelling in 1800, son of Elias Harmer and Sarah Betts has been traced to Canada!
William and his second wife Elizabeth Long and their children migrated to Ontario Canada in about 1845 from Kelling, where they became farmers. William's first wife Mary Gidney who he married at Morston in 1828, died aged 27 years and was buried at Morston in 1830. William remarried Elizabeth Long born abt 1811 in 1831 in Morston. Interestingly William and Elizabeth named one of their children Phebe Marie after the Kelling Estate Mistress (who was a Girdlestone). I have made contact with a Bob Harmer of Vancouver who claims descendancy through William. Bob is also a member of the HFA, and he has a reference to a Martha Dye nee Harmer possibly living with William and his family in the 1841 census. This Martha may be an unrecorded  sister of William born about 1796, which would neatly fit into the list of Elias Harmer and Sarah Betts children. We need to find a record of her birth to confirm this.  Kind Regards 
Peter Harmer

From: "Ann Chivers" <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:28 AM
Have been looking at your Salthouse history site whilst looking for a Zurishaddai Girdlestone. Found him b. 1750 d 1823. His wife Phebe Maria Beetson is on my tree. She was born to Thomas and Phebe (Grundy) Beetson and bap. 6 Sept. 1775 at St. Andrew, Holborn Ldn. They had no children.  I would like to know what Zurishaddai did (was he a rector?) I see that Phebe Maria was a Patron in 1840 of Kelling St. Mary.
What would that have entailed. I do hope you can find time to look at my query as you are no doubt a voluntary group and I appreciate the demands on your time.
Many thanks,
Ann Chivers,

I sent Ann the link to the description of Zurishaddai Girdlestone, and she replied:
From: "Ann Chivers" <>To: <>Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:22 AM
Subject: Girdlestone
Many thanks Val for your kind reply.  A little more on Phebe for you.  Her father was Thomas Beetson who was a mercer in Fleet st., LDN for some 30 years until about 10 years before  his death in 1806.  Thomas Beetson's wife Phebe Grundy is interesting.  The Grundy had been in the Thurgarton and Bleasby villages in Notts. since at least 16th century, and from 1610-1744 owned the Manor House in Bleasby and much surrounding land.
The house had to be sold in 1744 when the eldest son of the occupying Grundy's became a bankrupt and it was sold to pay his debt. This son died and the only remaining son was Henry Grundy (m. Margaret Walton) who was a surgeon in Wood St. LDN.  Henry Grundy died intestate and his only surviving child was Phebe who inherited the Nottinghamshire estates.  Thomas and Phebe Beetson had only three children, Henry Grundy Beetson (my ancestor) who married Cordelia Blakestone), Margaret Beetson (m. George Tennant) and Phebe (m. Z. Girdlestone).  These three ended up with the Nottinghamshire estates - majority to Henry Grundy Beetson. I have found no connection with the Beetson/Grundy with Norfolk.
Kind regards and again thankyou.

Ann ( in a lovely spring day here in Western Australia)

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From: Jackie Harris
To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 4:45 PM
Subject: The lewis family

Dear Val
It was a pleasure to meet you last week. The Salthouse book has been read by the family and even my husband has found the history fascinating and he is not from Norfolk ! Thank you for sending the information you have on the Lewis family. Edmund Lewis is buried in Salthouse with, I think, his wife ‘ Thompson ’ (unable to read stone fully), near to the graves of Charles and Susannah Lewis and Fenn Lewis (a child) so I think there maybe a connection. I’m not able to trace Charles Lewis birth. This is what I have of the Lewis family: Elsie Roberts nee Allen (my grandmother) was the youngest child of William Fenn and Margaret Allen . William Fenn Allen was the oldest of 14 children born to Samuel Allen and Elizabeth Lewis ( Betsy ). William Fenn Allen was born on 13 th May 1883 , birth registered on GRO as being born at Salthouse. No record of any christening in church records. Samuel and Betsy ’s next 2 children were also born in Salthouse and are recorded in the baptisms of church records. Their names were Herbert James Allen (bpt 1885) and James John Allen (1887).

Between James and the next born Frederick the family moved to Norwich . I have not been able to find any marriage between Samuel and Elizabeth . Samuel was born in Tuttington, Norfolk and Elizabeth Lewis born in Salthouse. No record of church baptisms but she was the illegitimate child of Susan Lewis born approx 1863. Susan Lewis was the eldest child of Fenn and Ann Lewis (nee Barnes ). Fenn and Ann married in Langham, Norfolk, on 9th November 1841 where Susan Lewis was born and baptised ( 2 nd January 1842 ). Her siblings were all born in Salthouse. Herbert Lewis was the only other child of Fenn and Ann to survive childhood. In the 1881 census Herbert was unmarried, a visitor in Maria Howe ’ house in Thursford.

Fenn Lewis was born in Salthouse and bpt 1811 and also buried in 1861, 53 years old. Fenn was the eldest child of Charles and Susannah Lewis who married at Salthouse church on 10 th June 1805 . There is a headstone for Charles and Susannah also Susannah their daughter. In church burial records Ann Lewis died in Thorpe ( Burnham Thorpe ?) but buried Salthouse 1884, 70 years old. Also I don’t know about the relationship between Mary Lewis September (died 1815 95 years old), Edmond Lewis (buried 1740 aged 51) in next grave to his wife- Thompson (words on headstone half covered by soil). Again there is a Fenn Lewis who married Francis King 1768 but unable to trace Charles Lewis' birth. I hope this is of some interest to you

Jackie Harris

Jackie enclosed this photo
of Samuel and Elizabeth Allen
and also a hand-done family tree which I have put into pdf. format click on photo to see it or click here to see Jackie's hand drawn one.



To: Val Fiddian Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:32 AM
RE: Salthouse Harmers

Dear Val,
Another quick amendment, I noted from your website today about Honor Jones' Norfolk History Website, visited it today and found an Edgefield  marriage recorded in the AT's between Thomas Harmer and ? Dyball on 11 May 1761, both otp. From this entry, I see it belongs to the Thomas Harmer and Frances Dyball I refer to in my earlier email. I'd like to express my thanks to Honor for her website. Based on this I suspect our Elias (b abt 1765) may have been born in Edgefield, just need  to view the registers/transcripts to find it. 

Kind Regards 
Peter Harmer
From: Harmer, Peter
To: Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:05 AMSubject: Salthouse Harmers

Dear Val, Following on from my earlier emails, research on the Harmers of North Norfolk, especially in the Salthouse/Kelling/Weybourne/Bodham areas is progressing well thanks to the efforts of Brian Larkman, who has been putting in many hours at the Norfolk Records Office (NRO) viewing bishops and archdeacon transcripts, parish records etc, and also Cora Num of the Harmer Family Association.We now have a much clearer picture of Francis' ancestry. Francis' parents were Elias Harmer and Sarah Betts who married at Kelling in 23 Feb 1790. They had the following known children: Thomas Betts Harmer b1790 Salthouse
Elias Harmer b1792 Salthouse
James Harmer b1794 Salthouse
John Harmer b1798 Kelling
William Harmer b1800 Kelling
Sarah Ann Harmer b1802 Kelling
Mary Harmer b1805 Kelling
Ann Harmer b1808 Kelling
Francis Harmer b 1 June 1810 Kelling Elias was born in about 1765, and died at Kelling in 1840 aged 75 years. We suspect Sarah Betts died at Kelling in 1818 aged 51.Tracing Elias' birth has been a bit more difficult. We believe he is the son of Thomas Harmer and Frances Dyball, but have not yet found his baptism or birth record. His approximate year of birth fits neatly into Thomas and Frances list of known off spring. Thomas' parents were Elias Harmer and Mary Bugden who were married in Weybourne in 1729. We have not yet got back any further, although Brian has recorded a number of entries for Harmers before 1727 in Weybourne. Brian has also traced some of Francis' siblings lines, notably John who married Ann Adams and died in Holt in 1878, William who married twice, his second wife being Elizabeth Long, by the 1851 census their large family appear to have left the Kelling area-possibly emigrated?, Mary and Ann Harmer.Also we are tracing Francis' first wife Ann Barrett/Barratt, who was a widow. Her first husband who she married in 1825-William Christmas died at Kelling in 1827. She had two children by William: John and Marianne (born after her fathers death in 1828). Marianne died aged 9 at Bodham in 1836.Have not had any success yet in finding out much more on Francis' second wife Maria Larkman, but have filled in a few gaps on Francis' children including the death of Edward Harmer at Kelling in 1847 before they emigrated to South Australia in 1848. Hannah and Margaret Harmer were both born at Bodham. I have located a photo of Margaret with her husband William James Adams I can email to you if you are interested.Kind Regards

Peter Harmer

To: Val Fiddian Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:04 PM
Subject: Some entries for your viewers

Hi Val,

My best regards to you, sorry so long in writing but have been really busy with my site. I see that so many folks are wanting Weybourne data.  Please pass this data on to them.  They were transcribed by my good friend Linda Steward about 15 yrs ago.   The marriages for Weybourne At's 1729 - Feb 13, 1812 (full transcriptions are on site Baptisms and Burials for this parish for AT's ( same period ) will be going on site soon.  Cannot offer to do any lookups right now as I am still preparing data for the site, but these are the entries for  the LARKMAN families within these AT's for the above period, with two PURDY entries and the PIGOTT entries.( that tie into the LARKMAN families ). Weybourne parish registers will be also going on in the future. 1766  ( date illegible but after May 4th.)  John Thirtle LARKMAN s of James & Ann LARKMAN bapt1768 Jul 10  Margaret d. of James & Ann LARKMAN bapt.1772 ( date us blank)  Margaret d James & Ann LARKMAN bapt1775 Sept 3  Thomas s James & Ann LARKMAN bapt1778 Jun 14  Thomas s James & Ann LARKMAN bapt.1779 Oct 22  Robert s James & Ann LARKEMAN ( as written ) bapt1780 Dec 15  Martin s James & Ann LARKEMAN (as written) bapt1785 Jun 19  Robert s James & Ann LARKMAN ( late THIRTLE ) bapt.  born Jun 171790 Apr 18  Anne d William & Anne PIGOT late LARKMAN, bapt1791 Nov 6  Jane d William & Anne PIGOT late LARKMAN, bapt1792  Nov 4  John s William & Anne PIGOTT, late LARKMAN bapt1795 Mar 29  Robert s Wm. & Anne PIGOT late LARKMAN bapt1796 Mar 6 Mary d William & Anne PIGOTT bapt.  ( does not mention the maiden name but it is a possible)1798 Apr 29 John s William & ..............  late .................   bapt1799 Jun 16  William s William & Ann PIGOTT late LARKMAN [this entry is given as 1800 but is amongst the year 1799]1800 Feb 24  Edmund natural son of Mary MALLIS ? late LARKMAN bapt1802 Mar 13  Christopher s William & Ann PIGOTT late LARKMAN bapt1803 Mar 27 ?  Sarah d Wm. & Ann PIGOTT late LARKMAN bapt1806 June 8  Rebecca d William & Ann PIGOTT late LARKMAN bapt1808 Dec 4  John s William & Ann PIGGOTT ( as written ) late LARKMAN bapt1810 Feb 18  James s Wm. & Ann PIGGOTT, late LARKMAN bapt1811 ( date not given )  Sarah d Wm. & Ann PIGGOTT late LARKMAN baptMarriages. are on the site ( at Burials 1776 Jan 15.  Thomas LARKIN buried infant.  ( worth taking a look in the parish registers could be LARKMAN )1781 Jan 1  Martin LARKEMAN buried Infant1782 .....22  ( prior to Nov 3 )  Robert LARKEMAN infant buried1786 Aug 20  Margaret LARKMAN spr ( spinster ) buried1794  Apr 27  Job s Wm. & Ann PIGOT late LARKMAN aged 2 mths. buried.1798 Aug....   John PIGOT buried1801 Sept 24  Christopher PIGOTT buried infant1804  Feb....   Sarah PIGOTT infant buried1806  Jun...  John PIGGOTT an infant buried PURDY entries1778 Apr 9  Hannah PURDY aged.   buried1797 Apr 14 ?  William PURDY buried.

Thanks very much Honor,


All the best

Honor Jones.


CAN ANYBODY HELP Brian with the Purdy family ? (This message has been online since April, and has just been answered (see below)
Brian Purdy
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:58 PM
Subject: purdyfamily history

dear sir          with referance to your website salthouse .my name is brian purdy and have been researching the name purdy in norfolk .so far i am back to william purdy and mary (clark ) born shipdham and mary born cranworth born 1784 they had children edmound,marianne.robert,thomas,charlot,mary ann, but cant find there father.Looking at your names from salthouse i wounder if there could be a link

From: roy purdy
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:28 PM
Subject: purdy family tree

hi brian being a Norfolk Purdy myself and doing a bit of hunting around myself my branch of the family seem to originate from little walsingham area quite a chunk of info on mike ainscough's web site for my fathers side of my tree which may or maynot be of help to you.                                                       (mike ainscough's site)         (my email  addy)                                                                                         by all means drop me a line if I am able to help further
                                                                                                    regards Roy Purdy
From: "DavidandNanette" <David&>To: <>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:15 PM

Thank you for your interesting information about the Salthouse families. Copies of some of the pictures we have in our possession.

Your Salthouse website carries a photo with two women and a child in a pram relating to the Pigott family at Salthouse. It carries the following wording: 'Above: The lady on the left needs to be identified. The lady on the right is definitely Amelia (daughter of Mary Ann and John Pigott in the photo on the left). Amelia Pigott married David Parlett Jarvis, a widower who had moved back to Salthouse, his home village, from London with his two younger sons after his wife died. The baby in the elaborate pram is Amelia and David's son Cyril.'

We have a copy of the same picture which was passed on to us by my wife's late father John Godfrey, who was the son of Minnie Pigott, Amelia Pigott's sister. The information that has come down to us about this picture is as follows.

The lady on the left is Maria Godfrey (nee Floyd) the child's grandmother, the lady on the right is Minnie Pigott, wife of John Arthur Robert Godfrey, and the boy in the pram is John Godfrey, my wifes's father who provided us with the information. We think the picture was taken at Mulbarton near Norwich where John Charles and Maria lived, sometime around 1902.

I would be interested to be in touch with the lady who provided this to see what she might have to say about the tradition as it came down to us.

David and Nanette Sanderson.

I replied:
Dear David and Nanette,

How very interesting! It does seem very likely that your identification is the correct one. The photo was sent me, along with all the others of John and Mary Pigott's daughters, by Eric and Margaret Mason who have done a lot of research on Margaret's Pigott ancestors. I will forward your message to them though I'm not sure if their email address is still the right one.

 I feel sure that they will be most interested to correspond with you, and to know of your existence.

 Anyway, in the mean time, many thanks from me. I'm so pleased you spotted the photo!  Perhaps you would look at the many photos that are unidentified of Pigotts and Laytons - (see the Salthouse History Home page on the right under the heading NEW ITEMS: 'Photos needing identifying').

Kindest regards



From: "DavidandNanette" <David&>

To: <>

Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:07 PM

Subject: Pigotts of Salthouse

Dear Val,
It would be good to hear from the Masons, we have quite a bit ourselves on the Pigotts. Incidently, John Arthur Robert Godfrey who married Minnie Pigott, also Married her sister Rosa, but on this occasion it was a second marriage for both. Rosa's oldest son, Arthur Godfrey, died in New Zealand
last weekend he was 92!

David and Nanette Sanderson

Have a look now at that John and Mary Pigott page
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: Jarvis

I often delve into the Salthouse site and today I found an In Memoriam card for Arthur Jarvis.  He married Sarah Ann Pigott in 1902 and died aged 33 in 1912.  She then married Jack Dack.  My question is - does anyone out there know if Sarah had any children by Arthur and could you let me know.

I noticed a mistake on the writing below Arthur Jarvis' in mem card. He married Sarah Ann Pigott in 1902 not 1869 (he was not born until 1879).

I love the fact that everytime I go onto the site I find something new which is applicable to my Jarvis lot.

Hi Margaret,
Thanks for spotting that - it's now corrected!
Eric & Margaret Mason
, who are related to the Sarah Ann Pigott who first married Arthur Jarvis, might have a record of any children by that marriage.
All the best

All the best

Margaret Pope

From: "Bryan Gilbert" <>
To: Val Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 5:45 PM


Excellent site, very impressive; just browsed it this morning before work but has whetted my appetite to return later. Surprised to not see any details of the RAMM family. I know that my great uncle Percy Ramm and his wife Miriam (High) lived there as I used to visit them during our family holidays at Kelling Heath & Sheringham in 50's & 60's. I can still place their house on the r/h side just passed the farm.

My interest in the RAMM family is to locate missing details from my father's side of the family tree. Percy I believe hailed from Gresham along with Dad's mother Elsie Ramm. Oddly I cannot locate their name from the 1841 census although that name appears at Cley & Weybourne (another holiday)

I live within 40 odd miles of Salthouse, so no doubt I'll be coming again soon this summer.
Appreciate if you have any details of the Ramm's

Best wishes


To: Val
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 10:52 PM

Val, seems an age since we last contacted each other. Been very busy making headway into my father's family tree and now it goes back to 1817. I still want to get some more details on the RAMMs.
Hopefully it will be my intention to come across to  Sheringham (we love it) & Salthouse over the next 4 weeks or so. It would be so nice to meet Kath Gray with my mum and to see Percy & Miriam's old house. If we can find a viable date to meet Kath, we can pop across from here hopefully at a weekend.
I wouldn't mind a walk on the beach as well.
Best wishes


From: bryan.gilbert
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2005 6:08 AM


Thanks so much for this information. I spoke with my mum (she lives near me after Dad died last year). She recollected her memories after I read her your reply. She recalled being pregnant with my elder sister (b 2/1950) so it must have been during 1949 I suppose that she & dad were walking over the Heath (Salthouse) and remembered visiting Gladys Ramm after complaining of swollen ankles!! I shall show the pictures you sent to her at the weekend.
The photo of Miriam is exactly as how I remembered her. Mum recalled that Percy was a Gamekeeper and did live in S.Wales at LAWRENNY (near to Pembroke or Milford Haven) c 1949!!.

She remembered Kath as being Haddon's daughter (I hope that is right) and we would both love to visit Kath especially as she lives in the house that we remember in Cross Street. Mum also recalled Clifford, Haddon, Havelock, and Girtie. Also that Percy & Miriam had 2 children Bernard & Joyce. I found a Bernard Ramm on Genesreunited, have sent a message to identify if he is the same.

Thanks once again for your help.
Best Regards


Don High, Havelock High, Miriam Ramm,
Kath High and Percy Ramm (Bryan's great-uncle)
on the Manor Farm at Salthouse in the 1950s

Percy Ramm's son Bernard has now been located and
is very keen to meet Bryan and his mother.


(Save this space for a photo of the meeting perhaps!)

Nothing came about because of illness, but it will happen !

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